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Here’s a new BBC documentary about scientists who are trying to conquer death:

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I would love to live 500 years if I could be healthy for that long. Would you?

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Ed Young’s Lavish Lifestyle

ed-youngEd Young is a popular preacher in many evangelical circles. The largest church in my area, for example, has him to preach whenever they can and he is a mentor to the pastor.

But now some are questioning his luxurious lifestyle:

One former staff member who says he was close to Young but wishes not to be identified, described it this way: “The lack of accountability. The lavish lifestyle that keeps increasing, while the attendance keeps decreasing.” [...]

And, like good ‘ol Benny Hinn, he has a private jet:

Young recently replaced his chief financial officer and replaced him with his personal attorney, business partner and fishing buddy, Dennis Brewer Jr.

With Brewer’s help and a complex series of business creations and transactions, Young is now jetting around the country in a French-made Falcon 50 private jet; estimated value, $8.4 million. [...]

Those who hear him preach every Sunday have never been told about the aircraft.

“The staff members are told that there is no plane, and several staff members who have actually been on the plane have denied that there is a plane,” said the former employee source.

He also makes some serious cash:

News 8 has also learned that Young’s 10,000 square foot, $1.5 million estate on Lake Grapevine is not listed on the tax rolls in his name, but rather in the name of “Palometa Revocable Trust.”

Records show that Young was paid $240,000 a year as a parsonage allowance; that’s in addition what sources say is a $1 million yearly pastor’s salary.

And on top of that, he has been creating numerous for-profit businesses based on the non-profit church:

In the past few years, Young and his attorney, Dennis Brewer Jr., have created a number of for-profit companies generating money apart from Fellowship Church, including: Creative Pastors, CreativePastors.com, Creality Enterprises, Creality Publishing, EY Publishing, Ed Young Resources and UOI Resources.

All the businesses list the fifth floor of Dennis Brewer’s law office in Las Colinas as their office address.

But the resources used to generate the profits come, in part, from the not-for-profit Fellowship Church. For example, Ed’s favorite sermons that were delivered at the church.

Young might not be breaking any laws, but as the article says, “perhaps he is violating the covenant of honesty with his congregation.”

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Would I Still Be an Atheist?

by Jesse Galef –

Overcoming personal bias can be one of the most difficult tasks in searching for the truth. The particular experiences and influences in our lives are – to a large degree – out of our control and yet they play a huge role in shaping our beliefs. And it’s not as though we can reboot our lives, remove the biasing agent, and see what we end up believing (we would also have to do it a few hundred times so we can get a decent confidence interval).

A first step is acknowledging our biasing factors, but how do we wrap our minds around it?  Alicorn at Less Wrong gives a great example:

During one of my epistemology classes, my professor admitted (I can’t recall the context) that his opinions on the topic would probably be different had he attended a different graduate school.

What a peculiar thing for an epistemologist to admit!

Of course, on the one hand, he’s almost certainly right. Schools have their cultures, their traditional views, their favorite literature providers, their set of available teachers…
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But on the other hand… but… but…

But how can he say that, and look so undubiously at the views he picked up this way?

It’s an uncomfortable position.  Now, for all I know, the professor was discussing preferences and not an objective truth claim. I don’t have as big of a problem with the notion that, had I been raised in the South, I would find grits more delicious than waffles (how absurd!). It’s more of a problem when we acknowledge that personal factors are affecting our so-called universal claims of objective truth.

As usual, my mind took the question to religion.  Most people continue to believe the religion they were taught as a child. As it happens, I was raised in a secular household without much discussion of God and grew up to be an atheist. But let’s revisit the scenario in which I was raised in the South (eating foul grits). If I had been raised by Evangelical Christians would I still be an atheist today? It’s conceivable that I would be a Christian apologist, writing philosophical papers for God’s existence and arguing on blogs. That image troubles me – and not just because it’s at odds with what I think right now. I want to be confident that my beliefs are an accurate reflection of reality, not the result of where I was born. The counter factual makes me wonder.

It’s difficult not to sound hypocritical. I believe that, by coincidence, I was raised by parents who were correct. But I’ve heard religious people of all faiths say similar things. What can we do to cut through the biasing influence of our upbringing? How can I be confident that, unlike them, I really WAS coincidentally born into a household which was correct? Obviously, this question applies to everyone, not just me and not just atheists.

All I can see to do is foster critical thinking skills – the conscious effort to overcome bias. I’m trying my best to keep an open mind, give other views a fair hearing, and pursue the truth. So far, as I’ve done that, I’ve found the evidence for the existence of gods to be pathetically flimsy.  I know I can never fully free myself of bias, but at least I’m doing what I can.  It’s my impression that as people learn critical thinking skills, they’re more likely to become atheists. That certainly boosts my confidence.

I know many of you had religious influences growing up and would have a completely different perspective on the issue. I would love your take.

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My Favorite Christian Is An Atheist!!!

One day I’d like to make a book compiling all the crazy things fundies say on youtube, forums… and my email.

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Ken Miller on the Lies of Casey Luskin

In a recent guest post on Carl Zimmer’s The Loom, Ken Miller shows the lies and decieptions of Casey Luskin (the spokesman of the Discovery Institute). Here is Miller’s conclusion:

What are we left with?  Nothing more than a vain attempt to pretend that ID’s collapse in the Dover case was the result of misrepresentation and deception.  For Mr. Luskin and his employers at the Discovery Institute, the generation of sound and fury continues, but in scientific terms, their continuing noise signifies nothing more than the utter emptiness of their failed ideas.

I’m looking forward to the day when creationist organizations like the Discovery Institute are laughed at by atheists and Christians — just like we would all laugh at a Flat Earth Institute, no matter what the Bible might literally say about the matter. Ken Miller is a Christian and can laugh at them, so it gives me hope.

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More Problems of Prophecy

by VorJack

In my last post, I wrote about one of the ways that the ancient Jews interpreted their scriptures: by finding hidden meanings within the text that were relevant to their current situations. This was usually done in the service of some exiting belief, i.e. That a certain person was the messiah or that the end times were upon us. Obviously, when you approach interpretation like that, it is going to have an effect on how you write your own works of holy lore.

Advancing by Looking Backwards

Pullquote: So one part of Genesis has been rewritten to provide comfort and offer the hope of eventual salvation.

What do you do when you’ve found a new interpretation of an existing text and want to pass it on? One way was to actually rewrite and expand on the story that you’re interpreting in such a way as to bring your interpretation out front. This process is sometimes called haggada (though this word also refers to a specific text).

One of the clearest examples of this practice is actually the Book of the Watchers in 1st Enoch, which I wrote about previously. The author of this story has expanded on a small section of Genesis and crafted a story of fallen angels who are making war, intermarrying with the humans and generally corrupting everyone.

The purpose of the story becomes clear when you understand that it was most likely written during or shortly after the period of turbulence following the death of Alexander the Great. Called the Wars of the Diadochi, or “Successors”, the period was roughly forty years in which Alexander’s generals fought for control over the lands he had conquered. During the first twenty years of the wars, Palestine and the surrounding region changed hands seven times.

In the story, the fallen angels are probably an analogy for the foreign invaders who are bringing both violence and Greek culture to the country. But, as the story makes clear, God has already heard the cries of the suffering, and already passed judgment on those that do harm to his chosen people. So one part of Genesis has been rewritten to provide comfort and offer the hope of eventual salvation.

Synthesis

Pullquote: Sometimes a older passage can be rewritten by weaving into another story, producing a synthesis of the two.

By piggybacking on existing scriptures, these rewritings could hope to attain a level of authority. And, in fact, we do find evidence that early Christians accepted some of the writings. Paul mentions the tradition that the Torah was given by angels (Gal. 3:19), which we find in the Book of Jubilees, which rewrites much of Genesis and Exodus. The Epistle of James speaks of the patience of Job (James 5:11), which works a lot better if he were referring to the later Testament of Job rather than the earlier canonical work.

So early Christians were reading these works and presumably accepted some of them, as well as the methods that produced them. This is important, since haggada can go to another level. Sometimes an older passage can be rewritten by weaving into another story, producing a synthesis of the two.

The most famous example of this is the story of the seven brothers found in 2nd Maccabees. The stories concern seven brothers and their mother, who are all ordered to eat pork by the King, Antiochus, who is attempting to forcibly Hellenize the country. The family refuses, and Antiochus has them tortured and killed.

The way that the story is written deliberately evokes the Suffering Servant passages of Isaiah (Isaiah 52-53). Words and phrases are selected from the prophetic text in order to reinterpret Isaiah’s Suffering Servant figure in light of the suffering of the Jews under Antiochus. However, the end result is a sort of hypertext which makes reference to earlier scripture, and as a result is essentially constructed of these references.

Wagging the Dog

Pullquote: And so the “argument from prophecy” is not so much a failure as far too simplistic.

The story in 2nd Maccabees is presumably based broadly on historical events: Antichous had Jews tortured and executed for refusing to follow his orders. However, this specific story is constructed with references to other scriptures in a way that reinterprets the older scriptures.

One could look at 2nd Maccabees and talk about all the prophecies it “fulfills,” but this would miss the point. Parts of Isaiah and Deuteronomy are being deliberately worked into the text by the author in order to tie the story to the older works and make the meaning clear. The events they depict probably never occurred in history.

And so when we look at a section of Christian scripture like the Passion Narrative in Mark, we have to ask, “Is this a historical account of real events that were foretold the Hebrew Testament, or is the author of the Gospel deliberately evoking those passages in order to explain the meaning of Jesus?”

And so the “argument from prophecy” is not so much a failure as far too simplistic. First – as I wrote last time – each individual interpretation is subjective and usually only accepted by those who share the interpreter’s preconceptions. Second, because the events on the story that supposedly fulfill a prophecy may have been written into the narrative specifically to evoke that prophecy.

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Turkish girl, 16, buried alive for talking to boys

The-hole-where-a-16-year--001A 16 year old girl in Turkey was buried alive by her family for talking with boys. It’s hard to believe people would do such a thing to anyone, much less their own family.

Turkish police have recovered the body of a 16-year-old girl they say was buried alive by relatives in an “honour” killing carried out as punishment for talking to boys.

The girl, who has been identified only by the initials MM, was found in a sitting position with her hands tied, in a two-metre hole dug under a chicken pen outside her home in Kahta, in the south-eastern province of Adiyaman.

Police made the discovery in December after a tip-off from an informant, the Turkish newspaper Hurriyet reported on its website.

The girl had previously been reported missing.

The informant told the police she had been killed following a family “council” meeting.

Her father and grandfather are said to have been arrested and held in custody pending trial. It is unclear whether they have been charged. The girl’s mother was arrested but was later released.

Media reports said the father had told relatives he was unhappy that his daughter – one of nine children – had male friends. The grandfather is said to have beaten her for having relations with the opposite sex.

A postmortem examination revealed large amounts of soil in her lungs and stomach, indicating that she had been alive and conscious while being buried. Her body showed no signs of bruising.

If these people were atheists instead of religious, do you think they would have done this?

Also, what do you think the consequences should be for these people?

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Obama Clears Low Bar at Prayer Breakfast

by Jesse Galef -

Obama once again graced the annual National Prayer Breakfast with his presence, and once more we in the nontheistic community were given a brief mention.  Yes, I’m bothered that Obama’s presence at the meeting lends credibility to the shady group known as “The Family.”  They’re the group of politicians who (when they weren’t busy being caught in sex scandals) pushed extreme legislation including the recent Ugandan anti-homosexual atrocity.  But at the meeting, Obama – as he has a tendency to do – inserted a nice phrase or two into the otherwise overwhelmingly religious speech.

The American Humanist Association issued a press release applauding this statement about the relief efforts in particular: “The compassion and decency of the American people is expressed… by Americans of every faith, and no faith, uniting around a common purpose, a higher purpose.”

This is a great line which embodies one of the AHA’s principles – whether or not you belief in a god, “Just be good for goodness’ sake.” There are common, secular concerns/purposes which everyone can understand and support. It’s great for Obama to emphasize that the charitable efforts in Haiti are not solely religious.

Of course, the recognition is surrounded by religious context (read the speech transcript here):

God’s grace, and the compassion and decency of the American people is expressed through the men and women like Corpsman Brossard. It’s expressed through the efforts of our Armed Forces, through the efforts of our entire government, through similar efforts from Spain and other countries around the world. It’s also, as Secretary Clinton said, expressed through multiple faith-based efforts. By evangelicals at World Relief. By the American Jewish World Service. By Hindu temples, and mainline Protestants, Catholic Relief Services, African American churches, the United Sikhs. By Americans of every faith, and no faith, uniting around a common purpose, a higher purpose.

It’s inspiring. This is what we do, as Americans, in times of trouble. We unite, recognizing that such crises call on all of us to act, recognizing that there but for the grace of God go I, recognizing that life’s most sacred responsibility — one affirmed, as Hillary said, by all of the world’s great religions — is to sacrifice something of ourselves for a person in need.

We’ve come a long way from President George H.W. Bush saying that he didn’t consider atheists citizens or patriots. But it’s sad that the bar was set so low when it comes to public appreciation of nonreligious Americans.

Back when I worked for the Secular Coalition for America, I was asked about Obama’s standing with nontheists. Six months later, my sentiments haven’t changed:

Secularists say they’re not asking for heaven here on earth, and they realize that much has improved. “This is a better administration than the one we had. It’s not perfect; politics is never perfect.” …

And Obama’s poll numbers remain much stronger with the unaffiliated than with regular churchgoers. But nonbelievers won’t keep the faith forever. “We’re glad he [Obama] is taking steps forward. But he could still do more to make us happier,” Galef concluded. “Lip service is better than no service. But at a certain point we’ll stop being happy with just the lip service.”

Obama’s inclusive statements do a lot – it’s so important that we be recognized as moral citizens who belong as part of the country.  But when can we expect more?

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