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The Most Blasphemous Book Ever Written

by VorJack

Alright, the title is a bit hard to justify. How do you measure blasphemy, by volume? But if you were to measure the blasphemy of a book by the dubious means of counting the number of blasphemy convictions it produced, one book would stand above all others: Thomas Paine’s Age of Reason.

Ironically, it’s a work that Paine wrote to shore up religion in France following the revolution. But as John Adams once pointed out, Paine was better at tearing down than building up, and his attacks on Christianity got more attention than his advocacy of deism. Paine got labeled an atheist and was refused burial even in Quaker cemeteries. But his writings continued to influence people well after his death.

Paine’s Legacy

Pullquote: Persecution is not an original feature in any religion; but it is always the strongly marked feature of all religions established by law. Take away the law-establishment, and every religion re-assumes its original benignity.
Rights of Man

Paine’s writings inspired some fervent disciples. One of them, William Cobbett, went so far as to dig up Paine’s remains from the farmer’s field where they were buried with the intention of building a shrine once the Revolution had come to England. It never came, the shrine never got built, and Paine’s bones are now, as the saying goes, “lost to history.” Check your basement.

Slightly less fervent, or perhaps slightly more sane, was Richard Carlisle. Carlisle ran a small shop on Fleet street in London where he printed and sold his own radical paper, The Republican, as well as a number of other politically radical publications. He was particularly fond of Thomas Paine, and would sell copies of his works at low cost.

Things got hot when when Carlisle began to publish attacks on the government following the Peterloo Massacre in 1819. Carlisle was arrested, tried and convicted of blasphemous libel for selling Age of Reason. This takes some explaining.

The British authorities had found that juries were reluctant to convict on the simple charges of sedition or libel. On the other hand, blasphemous libel was more successful and carried a stronger punch. It became the authorities’ preferred way of silencing dissent, and they used it to good effect to silence Carlisle and shut down his shop.

Well, that was the idea. Things went wrong for the government when Richard’s pregnant wife, Jane Carlisle, stepped in to run the shop. Arresting the wife would be bad optics, but Richard was somehow getting writings to her, and unflattering transcripts of his trial were being publish in The Republican. Jane was arrested, and would go on to give birth in prison.

The couple named their new son Thomas Paine Carlisle.

The War of the Shopmen

Pullquote: As to religion, I hold it to be the indispensable duty of all government to protect all conscientious professors thereof, and I know of no other business which government hath to do therewith.
Age of Reason

For the government, things started to go from bad to downright weird. As soon as Jane was arrested, Richard’s sister Mary Anne stepped in. She was arrested. She was promptly followed by a group of volunteers who continued to run Carlisle’s store, now called the “Temple of Reason.” They were arrested, but more volunteers arrived. And more. And more.

Some volunteers lasted no more than a day before being arrested, but there was always someone else. All told, somewhere around 150 people went to prison on the reliable charge of blasphemous libel. So many went to Newgate prison that they started writing a paper: Newgate Monthly Journal, available for purchase at the “Temple of Reason.”

As things heated up, there were some leaps of ingenuity. Realizing that spies were coming into the shop and later identifying the bookseller, they invented “Carlile’s invisible shopman.” A device was installed in the shop with a dial listing all the more controversial contents of the store. The customer simply turned the dial to the pamphlet of their choice, and the pamphlet was dispensed from a slot.

Sources differ on whether there was a man behind the dial or whether it was completely clockwork. I’d love to know for certain. If the first automated vending machine was created to dispense blasphemy … well, that would be too perfect.

And then … it stopped. It’s charmingly British, really. There was no great American show trial or battle on the Senate floor. In 1824, the last group of volunteers was tried and sentenced, and then authorities seemed to give up. Carlisle was released in 1825, and most of the volunteers were freed by 1826. The government had won nearly every case, but each victory had proven to be pyhrric.

Carlisle’s shop was not only operating but thriving, with people sometime paying three times the asked for price to support the effort. Paine’s works had now sold thousands of copies and diffused throughout the country, with more selling after every arrest. Carlisle had won, using only the methods of a publisher and bookseller. And the British government had finally developed a level of … * ahem* Paine tolerance.

So let’s remember men like Carlisle, who outsold, outwrote, and outlasted the government. And let’s raise a glass to old Tom Paine today, February 9th, one of the contested dates for his birthday. Tom, wherever your scattered body lies, you were the most scandalous pamphleteer and the greatest blasphemer of all time. We give you the only kind of afterlife an atheist can offer: we will remember you.

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Don’t Grow Old

Here’s a new BBC documentary about scientists who are trying to conquer death:

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I would love to live 500 years if I could be healthy for that long. Would you?

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Ed Young’s Lavish Lifestyle

ed-youngEd Young is a popular preacher in many evangelical circles. The largest church in my area, for example, has him to preach whenever they can and he is a mentor to the pastor.

But now some are questioning his luxurious lifestyle:

One former staff member who says he was close to Young but wishes not to be identified, described it this way: “The lack of accountability. The lavish lifestyle that keeps increasing, while the attendance keeps decreasing.” [...]

And, like good ‘ol Benny Hinn, he has a private jet:

Young recently replaced his chief financial officer and replaced him with his personal attorney, business partner and fishing buddy, Dennis Brewer Jr.

With Brewer’s help and a complex series of business creations and transactions, Young is now jetting around the country in a French-made Falcon 50 private jet; estimated value, $8.4 million. [...]

Those who hear him preach every Sunday have never been told about the aircraft.

“The staff members are told that there is no plane, and several staff members who have actually been on the plane have denied that there is a plane,” said the former employee source.

He also makes some serious cash:

News 8 has also learned that Young’s 10,000 square foot, $1.5 million estate on Lake Grapevine is not listed on the tax rolls in his name, but rather in the name of “Palometa Revocable Trust.”

Records show that Young was paid $240,000 a year as a parsonage allowance; that’s in addition what sources say is a $1 million yearly pastor’s salary.

And on top of that, he has been creating numerous for-profit businesses based on the non-profit church:

In the past few years, Young and his attorney, Dennis Brewer Jr., have created a number of for-profit companies generating money apart from Fellowship Church, including: Creative Pastors, CreativePastors.com, Creality Enterprises, Creality Publishing, EY Publishing, Ed Young Resources and UOI Resources.

All the businesses list the fifth floor of Dennis Brewer’s law office in Las Colinas as their office address.

But the resources used to generate the profits come, in part, from the not-for-profit Fellowship Church. For example, Ed’s favorite sermons that were delivered at the church.

Young might not be breaking any laws, but as the article says, “perhaps he is violating the covenant of honesty with his congregation.”

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Would I Still Be an Atheist?

by Jesse Galef –

Overcoming personal bias can be one of the most difficult tasks in searching for the truth. The particular experiences and influences in our lives are – to a large degree – out of our control and yet they play a huge role in shaping our beliefs. And it’s not as though we can reboot our lives, remove the biasing agent, and see what we end up believing (we would also have to do it a few hundred times so we can get a decent confidence interval).

A first step is acknowledging our biasing factors, but how do we wrap our minds around it?  Alicorn at Less Wrong gives a great example:

During one of my epistemology classes, my professor admitted (I can’t recall the context) that his opinions on the topic would probably be different had he attended a different graduate school.

What a peculiar thing for an epistemologist to admit!

Of course, on the one hand, he’s almost certainly right. Schools have their cultures, their traditional views, their favorite literature providers, their set of available teachers…
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But on the other hand… but… but…

But how can he say that, and look so undubiously at the views he picked up this way?

It’s an uncomfortable position.  Now, for all I know, the professor was discussing preferences and not an objective truth claim. I don’t have as big of a problem with the notion that, had I been raised in the South, I would find grits more delicious than waffles (how absurd!). It’s more of a problem when we acknowledge that personal factors are affecting our so-called universal claims of objective truth.

As usual, my mind took the question to religion.  Most people continue to believe the religion they were taught as a child. As it happens, I was raised in a secular household without much discussion of God and grew up to be an atheist. But let’s revisit the scenario in which I was raised in the South (eating foul grits). If I had been raised by Evangelical Christians would I still be an atheist today? It’s conceivable that I would be a Christian apologist, writing philosophical papers for God’s existence and arguing on blogs. That image troubles me – and not just because it’s at odds with what I think right now. I want to be confident that my beliefs are an accurate reflection of reality, not the result of where I was born. The counter factual makes me wonder.

It’s difficult not to sound hypocritical. I believe that, by coincidence, I was raised by parents who were correct. But I’ve heard religious people of all faiths say similar things. What can we do to cut through the biasing influence of our upbringing? How can I be confident that, unlike them, I really WAS coincidentally born into a household which was correct? Obviously, this question applies to everyone, not just me and not just atheists.

All I can see to do is foster critical thinking skills – the conscious effort to overcome bias. I’m trying my best to keep an open mind, give other views a fair hearing, and pursue the truth. So far, as I’ve done that, I’ve found the evidence for the existence of gods to be pathetically flimsy.  I know I can never fully free myself of bias, but at least I’m doing what I can.  It’s my impression that as people learn critical thinking skills, they’re more likely to become atheists. That certainly boosts my confidence.

I know many of you had religious influences growing up and would have a completely different perspective on the issue. I would love your take.

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My Favorite Christian Is An Atheist!!!

One day I’d like to make a book compiling all the crazy things fundies say on youtube, forums… and my email.

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Ken Miller on the Lies of Casey Luskin

In a recent guest post on Carl Zimmer’s The Loom, Ken Miller shows the lies and decieptions of Casey Luskin (the spokesman of the Discovery Institute). Here is Miller’s conclusion:

What are we left with?  Nothing more than a vain attempt to pretend that ID’s collapse in the Dover case was the result of misrepresentation and deception.  For Mr. Luskin and his employers at the Discovery Institute, the generation of sound and fury continues, but in scientific terms, their continuing noise signifies nothing more than the utter emptiness of their failed ideas.

I’m looking forward to the day when creationist organizations like the Discovery Institute are laughed at by atheists and Christians — just like we would all laugh at a Flat Earth Institute, no matter what the Bible might literally say about the matter. Ken Miller is a Christian and can laugh at them, so it gives me hope.

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More Problems of Prophecy

by VorJack

In my last post, I wrote about one of the ways that the ancient Jews interpreted their scriptures: by finding hidden meanings within the text that were relevant to their current situations. This was usually done in the service of some exiting belief, i.e. That a certain person was the messiah or that the end times were upon us. Obviously, when you approach interpretation like that, it is going to have an effect on how you write your own works of holy lore.

Advancing by Looking Backwards

Pullquote: So one part of Genesis has been rewritten to provide comfort and offer the hope of eventual salvation.

What do you do when you’ve found a new interpretation of an existing text and want to pass it on? One way was to actually rewrite and expand on the story that you’re interpreting in such a way as to bring your interpretation out front. This process is sometimes called haggada (though this word also refers to a specific text).

One of the clearest examples of this practice is actually the Book of the Watchers in 1st Enoch, which I wrote about previously. The author of this story has expanded on a small section of Genesis and crafted a story of fallen angels who are making war, intermarrying with the humans and generally corrupting everyone.

The purpose of the story becomes clear when you understand that it was most likely written during or shortly after the period of turbulence following the death of Alexander the Great. Called the Wars of the Diadochi, or “Successors”, the period was roughly forty years in which Alexander’s generals fought for control over the lands he had conquered. During the first twenty years of the wars, Palestine and the surrounding region changed hands seven times.

In the story, the fallen angels are probably an analogy for the foreign invaders who are bringing both violence and Greek culture to the country. But, as the story makes clear, God has already heard the cries of the suffering, and already passed judgment on those that do harm to his chosen people. So one part of Genesis has been rewritten to provide comfort and offer the hope of eventual salvation.

Synthesis

Pullquote: Sometimes a older passage can be rewritten by weaving into another story, producing a synthesis of the two.

By piggybacking on existing scriptures, these rewritings could hope to attain a level of authority. And, in fact, we do find evidence that early Christians accepted some of the writings. Paul mentions the tradition that the Torah was given by angels (Gal. 3:19), which we find in the Book of Jubilees, which rewrites much of Genesis and Exodus. The Epistle of James speaks of the patience of Job (James 5:11), which works a lot better if he were referring to the later Testament of Job rather than the earlier canonical work.

So early Christians were reading these works and presumably accepted some of them, as well as the methods that produced them. This is important, since haggada can go to another level. Sometimes an older passage can be rewritten by weaving into another story, producing a synthesis of the two.

The most famous example of this is the story of the seven brothers found in 2nd Maccabees. The stories concern seven brothers and their mother, who are all ordered to eat pork by the King, Antiochus, who is attempting to forcibly Hellenize the country. The family refuses, and Antiochus has them tortured and killed.

The way that the story is written deliberately evokes the Suffering Servant passages of Isaiah (Isaiah 52-53). Words and phrases are selected from the prophetic text in order to reinterpret Isaiah’s Suffering Servant figure in light of the suffering of the Jews under Antiochus. However, the end result is a sort of hypertext which makes reference to earlier scripture, and as a result is essentially constructed of these references.

Wagging the Dog

Pullquote: And so the “argument from prophecy” is not so much a failure as far too simplistic.

The story in 2nd Maccabees is presumably based broadly on historical events: Antichous had Jews tortured and executed for refusing to follow his orders. However, this specific story is constructed with references to other scriptures in a way that reinterprets the older scriptures.

One could look at 2nd Maccabees and talk about all the prophecies it “fulfills,” but this would miss the point. Parts of Isaiah and Deuteronomy are being deliberately worked into the text by the author in order to tie the story to the older works and make the meaning clear. The events they depict probably never occurred in history.

And so when we look at a section of Christian scripture like the Passion Narrative in Mark, we have to ask, “Is this a historical account of real events that were foretold the Hebrew Testament, or is the author of the Gospel deliberately evoking those passages in order to explain the meaning of Jesus?”

And so the “argument from prophecy” is not so much a failure as far too simplistic. First – as I wrote last time – each individual interpretation is subjective and usually only accepted by those who share the interpreter’s preconceptions. Second, because the events on the story that supposedly fulfill a prophecy may have been written into the narrative specifically to evoke that prophecy.

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Turkish girl, 16, buried alive for talking to boys

The-hole-where-a-16-year--001A 16 year old girl in Turkey was buried alive by her family for talking with boys. It’s hard to believe people would do such a thing to anyone, much less their own family.

Turkish police have recovered the body of a 16-year-old girl they say was buried alive by relatives in an “honour” killing carried out as punishment for talking to boys.

The girl, who has been identified only by the initials MM, was found in a sitting position with her hands tied, in a two-metre hole dug under a chicken pen outside her home in Kahta, in the south-eastern province of Adiyaman.

Police made the discovery in December after a tip-off from an informant, the Turkish newspaper Hurriyet reported on its website.

The girl had previously been reported missing.

The informant told the police she had been killed following a family “council” meeting.

Her father and grandfather are said to have been arrested and held in custody pending trial. It is unclear whether they have been charged. The girl’s mother was arrested but was later released.

Media reports said the father had told relatives he was unhappy that his daughter – one of nine children – had male friends. The grandfather is said to have beaten her for having relations with the opposite sex.

A postmortem examination revealed large amounts of soil in her lungs and stomach, indicating that she had been alive and conscious while being buried. Her body showed no signs of bruising.

If these people were atheists instead of religious, do you think they would have done this?

Also, what do you think the consequences should be for these people?

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