It doesn’t matter what religion you are. What sexuality. What race.
We’re people. We have rights.

Churches use their religion to defend things that mess with peoples’ rights. And that’s obviously wrong. The end.

It’s how they justified racism.

Then racism became the tenant as it was blacks who were put in that position and then people defended the tradition in the name of religion.

Things become explicit tenants of a religion solely through interpretation.

Most Christians that say it’s their religion don’t really get their religion.
They’re just cultural Christians.

Cultural Christianity is the religion used to control the masses.

Since we (with good reason) have embedded rather strong protections for the free exercise of religion into Western societies, especially the US, it is likely that churches will continue (and I would hazard, should be able to continue, however odious it may be) to be hateful jerks on the issue of sexual orientation. You can’t make people be better people against their will, generally speaking, and suasion is almost always more effective over the long term than direct force. Some churches have already come around on their own, and they will slowly continue to do so (until, I predict, the Southern Baptists are all alone in their cold, dark cul-de-sac of pitiless hate; I think even the RCC will come around before them). In the meantime, the civil legal issue of *state* recognition of same-sex marriage should remain a secular matter in all aspects.

So what if churches interpreted the bible such that black people could not marry each other in their church and that they would need to go to their own “black” churches.

Oh right, stuff like this tried to happen in the past. We called it “segregation”.
This is the same thing!

All of these “cultural Christians” are starting to get on my nerves. They are using their religion to defend their fears and traditions and it’s starting to get ridiculous.

So much for the golden rule, hey?

haha

Why doesnt anyone ever give em enough rope in that department?

btw – i just believe it’s too simple for anyone at all to grasp for a very very long time; that every adult should have the right to marry any other adult they choose. (I never hear that anywhere, either).

Some Christians confuse morales with individual rights, and think that Christians should have the right to impose their morale beliefs onto others. If they aren’t given that right (at the expense to the rights of everybody else), then they feel they are being persecuted against.

We are all supposed to love Christians and love their oppression, hatred, sense of supremecy and pretend like their sh*t doesn’t stink to high heaven. After all, they are Gods gift to the planet and the only ones going to heaven and they are so sure they’ve earned their way that instead of worrying about their own sins and morality, they have nothing better to do than worry about everyone elses and impose the beliefs that they don’t follow onto everyone else.

Of course, they don’t get it that people simply get fed up with their lack of respect of others, resentments fester and whoa when the oppressed try to get included in the individual rights deal – they are being persecuted against!. It’s as simple as the concept of “your rights end where the rights of another begin” or their own “Do unto others as you’d have them do unto you”. Or maybe some Christians really want all the various “heathens” knocking on their doors to preach to them about their personal beliefs and have their beliefs actually imposed upon them?

This doesn’t apply to all Christians, just some of them – the ones who wouldn’t have the slightest clue.

As of last year, Christianity was banned. Rabbis were being forced to marry gay folk dressed as Nazis, and hamsters are now sold only in brown paper bags out of the “adult” sections of local pet shops.

In what I’m sure is a totally unrelated development, an enormous volcano opened under our Paliament buildings and a gigantic Beast leapt out of it, demanding a sacrifice of a thousand virgins and insisting that we all get a tattoo.

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Barring that, a prescription of Perspectivex Oral Daily might do it… “A pill a day takes your exaggerations away”*

Eamon, do you think he might be working for Jesus because no one else will hire him?

*Active ingredient Reality 500mg. May cause rationality, feelings of shame and diarrhoea.

1) Go read Colson’s column, and the cases he cites, and you may begin to think he has a point.

2) Now go read the post at Evangelical Realism — and see just how badly Colson lied about them.

Colson was a liar when he worked for Nixon. Now he’s working for Jeeezuzzzz — and he’s still a lying scumbag.

Good point! I’m a teacher in NC. When a gay collaegue of mine left my school to further his education, another one of my co-workers told me that she was glad he wasn’t working around such “impressionable young men” anymore. I should have called her out for bigotted remark, but I chickened out and just shrugged my shoulders. Maybe it’s b/c she’s old enough to be my mother. My parents (regrettably) are the same way.