Pretend for a minute that there is irrefutable evidence for a god — so much evidence that no one doubts his existence, anymore than they would doubt the existence of Bill Gates.
But this god isn’t a kind, cuddly, boyfriend like Jesus who you want to sing love songs to. He seems pure evil. He kills little children, starves and drowns people to death, sends horrible diseases and plagues, commits genocide, and does everything else you regard as evil. This god obviously doesn’t love his creation, and seems to only enjoy suffering.
No, I’m not talking about old Yahweh, I’m talking about a god that actually exists.
What would you do? Worship him and hope for the best? Ignore him and try to live your life in peace? Rebel? Try and fight him somehow?
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Assuming there’s incontravertible evidence he exists, I’m straight in on the Dark Side. The trick would be figuring out what EvilGod actually wants from us; once we know that, the only sensible course is to provide him with what he wants, in the hopes of being spared. On the basis that he clearly enjoys innocent suffering, I think torturing kittens would probably get me into his good books. From there, I think a progression through ritualist murder, baby-eating and playing Des O’Connor records at full volume at 3 am would be the obvious way to go.
Submit to your evil overlord! Embrace the chaos!
That is VERY interesting!!!!
Wow… just thinking about it in that way suddenly makes the whole idea of God much more plausible to me.
Instead of constantly trying to understand why God allows so much death and suffering, despite his supposed undeniable love for his creation, it make much more sense to me to believe that God is the cause of death and suffering.
We then, as his creations, must learn to accept that, and live our lives as if each were our last, because God kills indiscriminately. That sounds like a possible better world to me.
Most people write off bad things as “God’s plan” for us, and we shouldn’t question it, and just believe.
aww crap…we are all screwed
No point in fighting the very creation that ’supposedly’ created us.
go party folks …your time is numbered. Enjoy it while it lasts.
I think that there would be groups that would worship EvilGod. However, there would be those who would rebel against EvilGod–however, if E.G. could send people to a place of torment even after they die, and people couldn’t kill E.G., humans would probably acquiesce to him/her/it.
if there realy was a god evil or not we wouldn’t have free will to decide what we were going to do anyways, as he would have know exacly how our lifes were going to play out even before we were born.
given that he knew exacly what we would do, he could easly abort anyone he disaproved of as most pregenacys self abort anyways.
so if there is a god good or evil its imposable to do something he doesn’t want you to.
as if you were going to defy him you’ed never have been born.
so in short anything you do is exacly what god wanted you to do. so it depends if the evil god wanted you to rebel, worship or ignore him.
thank you no one i know ever aknowledge this as there being no free will…..i applaud you in this
Gnosticism is supposedly based on just such a premise.
Just because I have a love for the ancient Greeks, I’d have to say I’d try to fight him. Hopefully in the process, I’d run across some type of supernatural aide or weapon that could help me in my fight. Mostly I’d just do it for the acclaim though! lol.
Play along with it
until you can learn where and how it derives it’s powers
then take them for yourself and destroy the “old” god.
Then you can run the show the way YOU see fit.
Mean you can drown the kittens, send the diseases, kill the lower groups of humans that you don’t feel like putting up with
and .. well… basically do what you feel like.
that sounds really good doesn’t it?
I think the term used for believing in an evil god is dystheism.
I suppose if there were one omnipotent EvilGod we’d be screwed. It would be a world of seeming indiferrence to human suffering, children dying from starvation, random accidents, natural disasters, horrible diseases, unprovoked abortions … Hmm, wait a minute…
Or we could hope for multiple gods, only one of them being EvilGod. Hinduism, anyone?
that is really interesting.
It means all of the so-called “Christians” are actually Satanists, or what they conceive Satanists to be. Because their “God” actually does all of that bad stuff, and they just make excuses for it, and they condemn people who don’t believe in their god to bad tortures and eternal misery, and in general don’t wish or give any good to people at all except themselves, and condemn science which has cured diseases and brought so much good to the world, selfish evil creatures that they are.
That certainly explains a lot.
Ia shub-niggurath! The goat with a thousand youngs!
Hmmm.
This sounds like the god of Calvinism to me.
Black Sheep
There was a certain heresy in the middle ages (I can’t remember what it was called) that believed that the God of the old testament was evil and vindictive. Basically the modern concept of Satan. They believed that Jesus was the ‘good’ God and came to dethrone the evil OT deity.
Has anyone else heard of this?
Viva la revolution.
Did you try reading about the sumerian civilization and other things? We’re created by some people from other galaxies or something. This universe is really big – there are trillions of stars, and billions of sunlike stars, i feel there shoudl be advanced life forms all over the universe.
I believe we’re ( humans ) are some kind of experimentation for a higher life form – if there was a god, it should be one of them.
And I believe UFO’s are real, and by any means earth is not 6000 years old. Its as old as science tells us. I’m a christian too, but I DESPISE all the religions – they are just some form of MIND CONTROL.
And true believers are the real drunk people whose minds are not open ( in all the religions of the world). Haha .. good to see your blog anyways !!!
You should definitely try reading stuff related to sumerian civilization, atlantis etc. I personally believe atlantis existed too..
Detroitus, I think the belief you describe is Marcionism, a species of the Gnostic religions mentioned upthread by Ken Goode. Marcion was a renegade theologian who believed that Yahweh, the god of the Old Testament, was an evil demiurge, and Jesus was a prophet of the real, higher God who hadn’t revealed his existence up until then.
Belief in an evil god is called maltheism…
I’d join the Republic of Heaven and go to the Adamant Tower to kick some angelic ass…
There was also a related gnostic metaphysical theory called Manicheism that God and Satan were equi-potent. In other words, there’s God and EvilGod at the same time. Which, by definition meant that the idea of God being omnipotent was rejected…. Since we’re examining odd theistic theories. (Teach the controversy! We are Malignantly Designed!).
But to treat the first part – fight like hell, the best I could.
You still believe that Bill Gates is real? Man, give me a break! :-)
Interesting, but I just don’t see it that way. The theory assumes that life is “good” and death is “bad”, a very mortal (and Christian?) way of thinking.
It doesn’t consider that death is just a natural part of life, part of the physical realm. As spiritual beings, this is just a temporary stopover before we return to the spiritual coil. If you can let go of “good” and “bad” labels, it makes life SO much easier!
To me, God is like all of nature and the universe, the sum of everything. The things you speak of are not “bad” or “good”, they just are…
Do those who think that dead babies are a tragedy think that dead ant babies or dead roach babies are tragic? How about dead snake babies? Generally, no, because they see those lives as somehow less than human life. Opposable thumbs and huge brains do not automatically confer superiority. I actually think trees may be a “higher” life form than humans, if not more spiritual.
You know that saying, “I am not a human being having a spiritual experience, I am a spiritual being having a human experience.” It’s like that for me. It makes death REALLY easy to accept and understand. And I don’t have to know what will happen after I am dead, because I accept that the universe will know how to handle it. There’s nothing more for me to do but live in the moment!
Diane “see you all in hell, although I don’t really believe in hell” K
Wow–Bizarro god?
Then, logically, you’d have to fight him and lose. But since in Bizarro world losing equals winning, you’d actually win!
Diane, human babies are valuable because they grow up to be human adults. And, so far as we know, only a few species can see the world the way humans do. That’s why we’re worried about them dying… because they represent great ideas that never came to fruition. Thought is so valuable, and every human life cut short is wasted thought.
Roaches, on the other hand, are little more than automatons.
And as for the spiritual element… it can’t be seen, or touched, or indeed sensed in any way, so one must assume that it probably doesn’t exist, and live the life you have now to the fullest. More time helps with that. That’s why I’ll put off death if I can.
If the god wanted something from us, we would obey. Otherwise, we would live as a robots that know that a higher power exists but are powerless. Our view of reality would be warped in this way. No tragedies would be out of the norm. A mortal against a god isn’t much of a fight.
Otherwise, we are just free. No retributions and no hope of rewards. Only we impact our lives… Much simpler.
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