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		<title>By: zach fair</title>
		<link>http://unreasonablefaith.com/2008/07/28/what-if-there-was-a-god-and-he-was-evil/#comment-45103</link>
		<dc:creator>zach fair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 00:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank you  no one i know ever aknowledge this as there being no free will.....i applaud you in this</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you  no one i know ever aknowledge this as there being no free will&#8230;..i applaud you in this</p>
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		<title>By: yoyo</title>
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		<dc:creator>yoyo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 04:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the god wanted something from us, we would obey. Otherwise, we would live as a robots that know that a higher power exists but are powerless. Our view of reality would be warped in this way. No tragedies would be out of the norm. A mortal against a god isn&#039;t much of a fight.

Otherwise, we are just free. No retributions and no hope of rewards. Only we impact our lives... Much simpler.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the god wanted something from us, we would obey. Otherwise, we would live as a robots that know that a higher power exists but are powerless. Our view of reality would be warped in this way. No tragedies would be out of the norm. A mortal against a god isn&#8217;t much of a fight.</p>
<p>Otherwise, we are just free. No retributions and no hope of rewards. Only we impact our lives&#8230; Much simpler.</p>
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		<title>By: wazza</title>
		<link>http://unreasonablefaith.com/2008/07/28/what-if-there-was-a-god-and-he-was-evil/#comment-2450</link>
		<dc:creator>wazza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 04:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Diane, human babies are valuable because they grow up to be human adults. And, so far as we know, only a few species can see the world the way humans do. That&#039;s why we&#039;re worried about them dying... because they represent great ideas that never came to fruition. Thought is so valuable, and every human life cut short is wasted thought.

Roaches, on the other hand, are little more than automatons.

And as for the spiritual element... it can&#039;t be seen, or touched, or indeed sensed in any way, so one must assume that it probably doesn&#039;t exist, and live the life you have now to the fullest. More time helps with that. That&#039;s why I&#039;ll put off death if I can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Diane, human babies are valuable because they grow up to be human adults. And, so far as we know, only a few species can see the world the way humans do. That&#8217;s why we&#8217;re worried about them dying&#8230; because they represent great ideas that never came to fruition. Thought is so valuable, and every human life cut short is wasted thought.</p>
<p>Roaches, on the other hand, are little more than automatons.</p>
<p>And as for the spiritual element&#8230; it can&#8217;t be seen, or touched, or indeed sensed in any way, so one must assume that it probably doesn&#8217;t exist, and live the life you have now to the fullest. More time helps with that. That&#8217;s why I&#8217;ll put off death if I can.</p>
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		<title>By: Metro</title>
		<link>http://unreasonablefaith.com/2008/07/28/what-if-there-was-a-god-and-he-was-evil/#comment-2449</link>
		<dc:creator>Metro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 23:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow--&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bizarro&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bizarro&lt;/a&gt; god?

Then, logically, you&#039;d have to fight him and lose. But since in Bizarro world losing equals winning, you&#039;d actually win!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8211;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bizarro" rel="nofollow">Bizarro</a> god?</p>
<p>Then, logically, you&#8217;d have to fight him and lose. But since in Bizarro world losing equals winning, you&#8217;d actually win!</p>
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		<title>By: Diane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 17:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting, but I just don&#039;t see it that way. The theory assumes that life is &quot;good&quot; and death is &quot;bad&quot;, a very mortal (and Christian?) way of thinking.

It doesn&#039;t consider that death is just a natural part of life, part of the physical realm. As spiritual beings, this is just a temporary stopover before we return to the spiritual coil. If you can let go of &quot;good&quot; and &quot;bad&quot; labels, it makes life SO much easier!

To me, God is like all of nature and the universe, the sum of everything. The things you speak of are not &quot;bad&quot; or &quot;good&quot;, they just are...

Do those who think that dead babies are a tragedy think that dead ant babies or dead roach babies are tragic? How about dead snake babies? Generally, no, because they see those lives as somehow less than human life. Opposable thumbs and huge brains do not automatically confer superiority. I actually think trees may be a &quot;higher&quot; life form than humans, if not more spiritual.

You know that saying, &quot;I am not a human being having a spiritual experience, I am a spiritual being having a human experience.&quot; It&#039;s like that for me. It makes death REALLY easy to accept and understand. And I don&#039;t have to know what will happen after I am dead, because I accept that the universe will know how to handle it. There&#039;s nothing more for me to do but live in the moment!

Diane &quot;see you all in hell, although I don&#039;t really believe in hell&quot; K</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting, but I just don&#8217;t see it that way. The theory assumes that life is &#8220;good&#8221; and death is &#8220;bad&#8221;, a very mortal (and Christian?) way of thinking.</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t consider that death is just a natural part of life, part of the physical realm. As spiritual beings, this is just a temporary stopover before we return to the spiritual coil. If you can let go of &#8220;good&#8221; and &#8220;bad&#8221; labels, it makes life SO much easier!</p>
<p>To me, God is like all of nature and the universe, the sum of everything. The things you speak of are not &#8220;bad&#8221; or &#8220;good&#8221;, they just are&#8230;</p>
<p>Do those who think that dead babies are a tragedy think that dead ant babies or dead roach babies are tragic? How about dead snake babies? Generally, no, because they see those lives as somehow less than human life. Opposable thumbs and huge brains do not automatically confer superiority. I actually think trees may be a &#8220;higher&#8221; life form than humans, if not more spiritual.</p>
<p>You know that saying, &#8220;I am not a human being having a spiritual experience, I am a spiritual being having a human experience.&#8221; It&#8217;s like that for me. It makes death REALLY easy to accept and understand. And I don&#8217;t have to know what will happen after I am dead, because I accept that the universe will know how to handle it. There&#8217;s nothing more for me to do but live in the moment!</p>
<p>Diane &#8220;see you all in hell, although I don&#8217;t really believe in hell&#8221; K</p>
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		<title>By: Fight the Power! &#171; Atheist A Go-Go!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fight the Power! &#171; Atheist A Go-Go!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Not There Yet</title>
		<link>http://unreasonablefaith.com/2008/07/28/what-if-there-was-a-god-and-he-was-evil/#comment-2446</link>
		<dc:creator>Not There Yet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 06:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You still believe that Bill Gates is real? Man, give me a break! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You still believe that Bill Gates is real? Man, give me a break! :-)</p>
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		<title>By: SFW</title>
		<link>http://unreasonablefaith.com/2008/07/28/what-if-there-was-a-god-and-he-was-evil/#comment-2445</link>
		<dc:creator>SFW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 05:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was also a related gnostic metaphysical theory called Manicheism that God and Satan were equi-potent. In other words, there&#039;s God and EvilGod at the same time. Which, by definition meant that the idea of God being omnipotent was rejected.... Since we&#039;re examining odd theistic theories. (Teach the controversy! We are Malignantly Designed!).

But to treat the first part - fight like hell, the best I could.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was also a related gnostic metaphysical theory called Manicheism that God and Satan were equi-potent. In other words, there&#8217;s God and EvilGod at the same time. Which, by definition meant that the idea of God being omnipotent was rejected&#8230;. Since we&#8217;re examining odd theistic theories. (Teach the controversy! We are Malignantly Designed!).</p>
<p>But to treat the first part &#8211; fight like hell, the best I could.</p>
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		<title>By: wazza</title>
		<link>http://unreasonablefaith.com/2008/07/28/what-if-there-was-a-god-and-he-was-evil/#comment-2444</link>
		<dc:creator>wazza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 01:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Belief in an evil god is called &lt;a href=&quot;http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/Maltheism&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;maltheism&lt;/a&gt;...

I&#039;d join the Republic of Heaven and go to the Adamant Tower to kick some angelic ass...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Belief in an evil god is called <a href="http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/Maltheism" rel="nofollow">maltheism</a>&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;d join the Republic of Heaven and go to the Adamant Tower to kick some angelic ass&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ebonmuse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ebonmuse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 01:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Detroitus, I think the belief you describe is Marcionism, a species of the Gnostic religions mentioned upthread by Ken Goode. Marcion was a renegade theologian who believed that Yahweh, the god of the Old Testament, was an evil demiurge, and Jesus was a prophet of the real, higher God who hadn&#039;t revealed his existence up until then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Detroitus, I think the belief you describe is Marcionism, a species of the Gnostic religions mentioned upthread by Ken Goode. Marcion was a renegade theologian who believed that Yahweh, the god of the Old Testament, was an evil demiurge, and Jesus was a prophet of the real, higher God who hadn&#8217;t revealed his existence up until then.</p>
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		<title>By: Geekd'</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geekd'</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 00:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you try reading about the sumerian civilization and other things? We&#039;re created by some people from other galaxies or something. This universe is really big - there are trillions of stars, and billions of sunlike stars, i feel there shoudl be advanced life forms all over the universe.

I believe we&#039;re ( humans ) are some kind of experimentation for a higher life form - if there was a god, it should be one of them.

And I believe UFO&#039;s are real, and by any means earth is not 6000 years old. Its as old as science tells us. I&#039;m  a christian too,  but I DESPISE all the religions - they are just some form of MIND CONTROL.

And true believers are the real drunk people whose minds are not open ( in all the religions of the world). Haha .. good to see your blog anyways !!!

You should definitely try reading stuff related to sumerian civilization, atlantis etc. I personally believe atlantis existed too..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you try reading about the sumerian civilization and other things? We&#8217;re created by some people from other galaxies or something. This universe is really big &#8211; there are trillions of stars, and billions of sunlike stars, i feel there shoudl be advanced life forms all over the universe.</p>
<p>I believe we&#8217;re ( humans ) are some kind of experimentation for a higher life form &#8211; if there was a god, it should be one of them.</p>
<p>And I believe UFO&#8217;s are real, and by any means earth is not 6000 years old. Its as old as science tells us. I&#8217;m  a christian too,  but I DESPISE all the religions &#8211; they are just some form of MIND CONTROL.</p>
<p>And true believers are the real drunk people whose minds are not open ( in all the religions of the world). Haha .. good to see your blog anyways !!!</p>
<p>You should definitely try reading stuff related to sumerian civilization, atlantis etc. I personally believe atlantis existed too..</p>
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		<title>By: Aerik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aerik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 00:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Viva la revolution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Viva la revolution.</p>
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		<title>By: detroitus</title>
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		<dc:creator>detroitus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 23:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was a certain heresy in the middle ages (I can&#039;t remember what it was called) that believed that the God of the old testament was evil and vindictive. Basically the modern concept of Satan. They believed that Jesus was the &#039;good&#039; God and came to dethrone the evil OT deity.

Has anyone else heard of this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was a certain heresy in the middle ages (I can&#8217;t remember what it was called) that believed that the God of the old testament was evil and vindictive. Basically the modern concept of Satan. They believed that Jesus was the &#8216;good&#8217; God and came to dethrone the evil OT deity.</p>
<p>Has anyone else heard of this?</p>
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		<title>By: Black Sheep</title>
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		<dc:creator>Black Sheep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm.

This sounds like the god of Calvinism to me.

Black Sheep</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm.</p>
<p>This sounds like the god of Calvinism to me.</p>
<p>Black Sheep</p>
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		<title>By: Dark Helmet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dark Helmet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 21:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ia shub-niggurath! The goat with a thousand youngs!</description>
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