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		<title>By: Francesc</title>
		<link>http://unreasonablefaith.com/2008/10/02/james-randi-explains-homeopathy/#comment-61124</link>
		<dc:creator>Francesc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 08:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t seen yet the second &quot;study&quot;. A &quot;pity&quot; that the control groups of the first one have between 8 and 10 mices</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t seen yet the second &#8220;study&#8221;. A &#8220;pity&#8221; that the control groups of the first one have between 8 and 10 mices</p>
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		<title>By: Dieguti</title>
		<link>http://unreasonablefaith.com/2008/10/02/james-randi-explains-homeopathy/#comment-61117</link>
		<dc:creator>Dieguti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 00:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The mice&#039;s faith
Effect of homeopathic medicines on transplanted tumors in mice
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18159975?ordinalpos=48&amp;itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

Can the plants believe? :-)
Homeopathic treatment of Arabidopsis thaliana plants infected with Pseudomonas syringae.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19468651?ordinalpos=15&amp;itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The mice&#8217;s faith<br />
Effect of homeopathic medicines on transplanted tumors in mice<br />
<a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18159975?ordinalpos=48&amp;itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum" rel="nofollow">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18159975?ordinalpos=48&amp;itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum</a></p>
<p>Can the plants believe? :-)<br />
Homeopathic treatment of Arabidopsis thaliana plants infected with Pseudomonas syringae.<br />
<a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19468651?ordinalpos=15&amp;itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum" rel="nofollow">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19468651?ordinalpos=15&amp;itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum</a></p>
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		<title>By: Johnson</title>
		<link>http://unreasonablefaith.com/2008/10/02/james-randi-explains-homeopathy/#comment-37859</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 22:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@KAL</description>
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		<title>By: Johnson</title>
		<link>http://unreasonablefaith.com/2008/10/02/james-randi-explains-homeopathy/#comment-37858</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 22:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well your logic is flawed, do you always swim up the stream?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well your logic is flawed, do you always swim up the stream?</p>
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		<title>By: Johnson</title>
		<link>http://unreasonablefaith.com/2008/10/02/james-randi-explains-homeopathy/#comment-37857</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 22:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was ment to JOEL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was ment to JOEL.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnson</title>
		<link>http://unreasonablefaith.com/2008/10/02/james-randi-explains-homeopathy/#comment-37855</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 22:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can&#039;t you just use your own brains and come up with the solutions for yourself? Don&#039;t pull the &quot;proving negatives&quot; here. Can you prove that my homeopathy pills don&#039;t make me a gorilla in the night? THEY ARE DOING IT FOR THE MONEY! Don&#039;t make everything so hard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t you just use your own brains and come up with the solutions for yourself? Don&#8217;t pull the &#8220;proving negatives&#8221; here. Can you prove that my homeopathy pills don&#8217;t make me a gorilla in the night? THEY ARE DOING IT FOR THE MONEY! Don&#8217;t make everything so hard.</p>
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		<title>By: Mitur Binesderti</title>
		<link>http://unreasonablefaith.com/2008/10/02/james-randi-explains-homeopathy/#comment-35948</link>
		<dc:creator>Mitur Binesderti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 17:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t have to believe in penicillin for it to work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have to believe in penicillin for it to work.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://unreasonablefaith.com/2008/10/02/james-randi-explains-homeopathy/#comment-4130</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 19:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The placebo effect is temporary and palliative.

So how did homeopathy cure so many people in the Cholera epidemic in 1854?

How did homeopathy save the lives of many from swamp fever in Cuba in 2007?

If water memory is so incredible, why is it held to be credible by Nobel Prize winner Brian Josephson?

Why do people favor the work of a magician of dubious ethical standards (backing out of a deal with Vithoulkas then blaming Vithoulkas for said failure) over the work of advanced physicists such as Conde, who concluded that water have a memory?

And why on earth is the argument &quot;it&#039;s just so obvious that water has no memory&quot; repeated as if it&#039;s actually worth saying? For the longest time, people concluded it was &quot;just obvious&quot; that germs didn&#039;t exist.</description>
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<p>So how did homeopathy cure so many people in the Cholera epidemic in 1854?</p>
<p>How did homeopathy save the lives of many from swamp fever in Cuba in 2007?</p>
<p>If water memory is so incredible, why is it held to be credible by Nobel Prize winner Brian Josephson?</p>
<p>Why do people favor the work of a magician of dubious ethical standards (backing out of a deal with Vithoulkas then blaming Vithoulkas for said failure) over the work of advanced physicists such as Conde, who concluded that water have a memory?</p>
<p>And why on earth is the argument &#8220;it&#8217;s just so obvious that water has no memory&#8221; repeated as if it&#8217;s actually worth saying? For the longest time, people concluded it was &#8220;just obvious&#8221; that germs didn&#8217;t exist.</p>
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		<title>By: murrowcronkite</title>
		<link>http://unreasonablefaith.com/2008/10/02/james-randi-explains-homeopathy/#comment-4129</link>
		<dc:creator>murrowcronkite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 05:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Aor

 Thanks for the cartoon and the freethunk website.
  I shall have to peruse that.</description>
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<p> Thanks for the cartoon and the freethunk website.<br />
  I shall have to peruse that.</p>
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		<title>By: Aor</title>
		<link>http://unreasonablefaith.com/2008/10/02/james-randi-explains-homeopathy/#comment-4128</link>
		<dc:creator>Aor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 05:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Aor</title>
		<link>http://unreasonablefaith.com/2008/10/02/james-randi-explains-homeopathy/#comment-4127</link>
		<dc:creator>Aor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The placebo effect is what all medicines and all medical treatments are compared to.  Treatments are evaluated on their performance compared to placebo.  Its that simple.  So, Joseph Smith.. that means that modern medical science works whether you believe in it or not.  The efficacy is determined by comparison to placebo, which means (listen close, this is simple yet important) that even with the placebo effect removed from the equation, the medicine still works.

So its time to stop mentioning the placebo effect as if it were some secret flaw in the medical profession.  Think of it as an added bonus.... you may have a slight increased chance of being cured based on the placebo effect, but that works across the board.. medicine, homeopathy, prayer, animal sacrifice, etc.  In other words, stop pretending medicine is based on the placebo effect.  It makes you look ignorant and possibly even deceptive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The placebo effect is what all medicines and all medical treatments are compared to.  Treatments are evaluated on their performance compared to placebo.  Its that simple.  So, Joseph Smith.. that means that modern medical science works whether you believe in it or not.  The efficacy is determined by comparison to placebo, which means (listen close, this is simple yet important) that even with the placebo effect removed from the equation, the medicine still works.</p>
<p>So its time to stop mentioning the placebo effect as if it were some secret flaw in the medical profession.  Think of it as an added bonus&#8230;. you may have a slight increased chance of being cured based on the placebo effect, but that works across the board.. medicine, homeopathy, prayer, animal sacrifice, etc.  In other words, stop pretending medicine is based on the placebo effect.  It makes you look ignorant and possibly even deceptive.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Smith</title>
		<link>http://unreasonablefaith.com/2008/10/02/james-randi-explains-homeopathy/#comment-4126</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 09:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever, but homeopathy is just like many other medical sciences, based on the faith of the patient and placebo effect. Our dear modern medical science is not omnipotent in healing even well known sicknesses unless you believe in it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever, but homeopathy is just like many other medical sciences, based on the faith of the patient and placebo effect. Our dear modern medical science is not omnipotent in healing even well known sicknesses unless you believe in it.</p>
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		<title>By: trj</title>
		<link>http://unreasonablefaith.com/2008/10/02/james-randi-explains-homeopathy/#comment-4125</link>
		<dc:creator>trj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 21:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The figures Baka mentions are the totals of &lt;i&gt;all&lt;/i&gt; the numerous categories listed by that site. Homeopathy specifically accounts for 434 deaths or injuries - again, according to the site.

Of course, if people use homeopathy or any other kind of useless healing as an alternative, rather than a supplement to conventional life-saving medicine, this kind of result is inevitable. Thankfully, few people are that phanatic in their delusions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The figures Baka mentions are the totals of <i>all</i> the numerous categories listed by that site. Homeopathy specifically accounts for 434 deaths or injuries &#8211; again, according to the site.</p>
<p>Of course, if people use homeopathy or any other kind of useless healing as an alternative, rather than a supplement to conventional life-saving medicine, this kind of result is inevitable. Thankfully, few people are that phanatic in their delusions.</p>
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		<title>By: Jabster</title>
		<link>http://unreasonablefaith.com/2008/10/02/james-randi-explains-homeopathy/#comment-4124</link>
		<dc:creator>Jabster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 19:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Baka: Have you got a link to those facts and figures and I&#039;ve not seen anything quite as concrete as that. I suppose I&#039;m just interested in seeing how reliable the evidence is.

Oh and I do agree with you basic premise - I mean what on earth are the NHS in the UK doing spending 10s of millions of pounds on this rubbish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Baka: Have you got a link to those facts and figures and I&#8217;ve not seen anything quite as concrete as that. I suppose I&#8217;m just interested in seeing how reliable the evidence is.</p>
<p>Oh and I do agree with you basic premise &#8211; I mean what on earth are the NHS in the UK doing spending 10s of millions of pounds on this rubbish.</p>
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		<title>By: Baka</title>
		<link>http://unreasonablefaith.com/2008/10/02/james-randi-explains-homeopathy/#comment-4123</link>
		<dc:creator>Baka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 21:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have noticed numerous folks in this discussion equating homeopathy to the placebo effect.  Rest assured, studies have shown that there is no difference between these two things.  However, to then make the logical leap that homeopathy is &quot;harmless&quot; is entirely unwarranted.

People who are in need of medical attention need real treatments grounded in evidence-based research.  Homeopathy absorbs the limited trust and funds of such people for a procedure that, at best, gives false hope and placebo ... but at prices significantly higher than a sugar pill and a kind word.  All too often, however, the damage is much greater.

The limited funds of these people should be spent on actual medicine, and their trust should be placed in procedures that have evidence (repeatable, demonstrable, and factual) backing them up.

If you would like to familiarize yourself with some of the bad things that are wrought in the name of homeopathy, you can begin by checking out whatstheharm.net.  This is an online resource that catalogs the harm caused by various woo-woo beliefs and alternative medicine scams.  Here&#039;s the specific page accounting some the victims of homeopathy:

http://whatstheharm.net/homeopathy.html

At current, homeopathy can be shown to have caused 3,254 deaths, 235,558 injuries, and over $455 million dollars in damage.  That doesn&#039;t seem very &quot;harmless&quot; to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have noticed numerous folks in this discussion equating homeopathy to the placebo effect.  Rest assured, studies have shown that there is no difference between these two things.  However, to then make the logical leap that homeopathy is &#8220;harmless&#8221; is entirely unwarranted.</p>
<p>People who are in need of medical attention need real treatments grounded in evidence-based research.  Homeopathy absorbs the limited trust and funds of such people for a procedure that, at best, gives false hope and placebo &#8230; but at prices significantly higher than a sugar pill and a kind word.  All too often, however, the damage is much greater.</p>
<p>The limited funds of these people should be spent on actual medicine, and their trust should be placed in procedures that have evidence (repeatable, demonstrable, and factual) backing them up.</p>
<p>If you would like to familiarize yourself with some of the bad things that are wrought in the name of homeopathy, you can begin by checking out whatstheharm.net.  This is an online resource that catalogs the harm caused by various woo-woo beliefs and alternative medicine scams.  Here&#8217;s the specific page accounting some the victims of homeopathy:</p>
<p><a href="http://whatstheharm.net/homeopathy.html" rel="nofollow">http://whatstheharm.net/homeopathy.html</a></p>
<p>At current, homeopathy can be shown to have caused 3,254 deaths, 235,558 injuries, and over $455 million dollars in damage.  That doesn&#8217;t seem very &#8220;harmless&#8221; to me.</p>
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