Comments on: Are Christians happier than non-Christians?

By: JesusIsLord

JesusIsLord — Sun, 10 May 2009 16:29:03 +0000

In reply to LRA, I have no onus to prove anything. History proves Jesus’ resurrection and Nature proves God’s Power. Who’s to say God didn’t use evolution to develop the world as we know it today? Can you “prove” otherwise?

If you need proof, ask God to prove it to you. Pray not half-heartedly, but expecting an answer, and God will prove it to you and give you the opportunity, if you’re really searching.

Otherwise, the Bible is not musty in my house. At the very least, I have a code of living that is proven to be healthier physically, mentally, emotionally, and spiritually, than what much of what the “world” offers. At the very least, when I die, I am assured of living eternally in happiness. Should you reject this, you risk Hell. I’d rather be a follower of the Great Shepherd than be in Hell for eternity.

Again, simple child-like faith in the Truth is all that is required. The arrogance is Man assuming there is no God. The arrogance is Man leaning on his/her own understanding when there is so much more in the spiritual realm to be understood.

By: LRA

LRA — Sun, 10 May 2009 01:53:28 +0000

Also if it is truth, you have the onus of verifying it on you. And pointing to your bible doesn’t count. I could write down that a flying purple people eater exists and then point to my writing as authority and prove as much as you do.

By: LRA

LRA — Sun, 10 May 2009 01:51:44 +0000

There is absolutely NO freedom in Christianity. It is TOTALLY about social control. After all, Jesus himself called you a sheeple. Go ahead sheeple, follow your shepherd…

By: LRA

LRA — Sun, 10 May 2009 01:48:31 +0000

You’re right. It’s not a debate. You’re spouting pseudoscience, I’m quoting scientific fact.

The world does not appear designed. In fact is appears as science has described it– an evolving world in which living organisms adapt to survive.

Also, you’re extremely arrogant if you think you’ve got the *truth*. All you’ve got is a musty old book full of stolen ideas.

By: JesusIsLord

JesusIsLord — Sun, 10 May 2009 01:35:44 +0000

If you’re curious read J.R.R. Tolkien’s “Silmarillion” as an allegory to the creation story. Note the similarity between Sauron and Satan and his jealousy that elves were made for the glory of higher beings.

I’m only referencing fantasy/fiction here because it may help you to understand that Adam and Eve are not mythology. And, if they are mythological, they still capture the essence of each of your comments: you are unwilling to submit to God because you, like all sinful man, including myself, is selfish. You talk about control because you do not wish to submit or be controlled.

But, there is freedom in Christ. We who accept Christ as Lord are forgiven, not perfect, just forgiven, and will live eternally in Heaven. I sincerely hope that your eternity is not Hell, for that is where those who refuse to submit and acknowledge the Lordship of Jesus Christ will live eternally.

This is the point: refuse to honor God, and you will die in Hell. This is not myth; this is Truth.

By: JesusIsLord

JesusIsLord — Sun, 10 May 2009 01:28:46 +0000

This is not a debate. The answer is already given. I need no more evidence than the organized construction of the world itself, for the rocks and trees themselves reveal His wondrous power; the Word of God; and a risen Lord Jesus Christ. No person can come to the Father but by Jesus Christ. There is no more evidence nor argument needed. I have shared my faith with you and have invited you to open your heart, to save your eternal soul. God will be the final judge.

By: J.R.

J.R. — Sat, 09 May 2009 19:24:53 +0000

Sorry, that was supposed to be a coment to Jesusislord.

By: J.R.

J.R. — Sat, 09 May 2009 19:24:00 +0000

I hate to disagree with you, but…. We are nothing like god. Because of two people ( Adam and Eve) and thier original sin, all of humanity it born into sin by defualt. Sounds like a very clever way of controling people to me.

By: LRA

LRA — Sat, 09 May 2009 18:52:25 +0000

Don’t worry, Grumpy– she’ll be 18 in two years, and you can start a discussion with her then on the fallacies of religion. Assuming she’ll go to college, that’ll help too. Encourage her to take philosophy courses– that’ll force her to really think about her position!!!

By: Question-I-thority

Question-I-thority — Sat, 09 May 2009 18:37:54 +0000

There’s your problem. You actually believe that the Adam and Eve mythology is a history lesson. Can you actually say honestly that you experience zero cognitive dissonance when studying the Garden of Eden story?

By: Question-I-thority

Question-I-thority — Sat, 09 May 2009 18:33:49 +0000

If you can’t summarize arguments from your truth source then you probably haven’t sufficiently thought through counter arguments to said source. If you accept McDowell’s positions you should at least be able to tell us what one of them is and back it up with some evidence.

By: LRA

LRA — Sat, 09 May 2009 17:54:13 +0000

I am asking you for specific evidence– and the evidence must be verifiable. Got any?

By: LRA

LRA — Sat, 09 May 2009 17:53:04 +0000

I’ve read both… neither gives a convincing argument. Sorry.

By: JesusIsLord

JesusIsLord — Sat, 09 May 2009 17:44:47 +0000

Because He created us to relate to Him and we (Adam and Eve, our ancestors) turned their backs on His commands. It’s not insecurity, it’s love. He does not demand anything, but He wishes for us to love and relate to Him, just as you wish to be loved and love in return and have relationship with other people. This is how we were created: in His image. But, if he demanded us to love Him robotically, He would not actually be loving us in return, but dictating to us.
So, God is love, and just wants you to love Him and others, and the eternal reward is life in Heaven with Him and those like Him and us who follow Him. The eternal punishment for turning a back on His love is Hell.

It’s a choice-point for you.

By: JesusIsLord

JesusIsLord — Sat, 09 May 2009 17:41:19 +0000

Please read The Holy Bible and Josh McDowell’s “Evidence that Demands a Verdict.”