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		<title>By: Karleigh</title>
		<link>http://unreasonablefaith.com/2008/12/12/atheist-xmas-tree-of-knowledge/#comment-78570</link>
		<dc:creator>Karleigh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 01:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hear, hear. I glared at the nativity scene in my local mall every time I passed it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hear, hear. I glared at the nativity scene in my local mall every time I passed it.</p>
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		<title>By: Metro</title>
		<link>http://unreasonablefaith.com/2008/12/12/atheist-xmas-tree-of-knowledge/#comment-7012</link>
		<dc:creator>Metro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I assume the tree was well decorated with apples?</description>
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		<title>By: McBloggenstein</title>
		<link>http://unreasonablefaith.com/2008/12/12/atheist-xmas-tree-of-knowledge/#comment-7011</link>
		<dc:creator>McBloggenstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 16:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha, good point.
I guess I was just thinking of a single isolated discussion rather than a progression of events.

I assume you&#039;re keeping the analogy going with evolution vs. creationism/intelligent design?

Correct me if I&#039;m wrong, but wasn&#039;t some form of intelligent design what was taught before modern theories on evolution were widely accepted?  And since then, some have been trying to re-introduce creation science and things like &quot;flood geology&quot; into the textbooks as alternatives?

So, we somehow went from having a crackpot explanation for things, then progressing to explaining them pretty darn well with evolution and modern geology, and now people that can&#039;t let go of their pseudoscience want to keep their crazy ideas that have no basis alongside proven theories in schools.

Sad, just sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha, good point.<br />
I guess I was just thinking of a single isolated discussion rather than a progression of events.</p>
<p>I assume you&#8217;re keeping the analogy going with evolution vs. creationism/intelligent design?</p>
<p>Correct me if I&#8217;m wrong, but wasn&#8217;t some form of intelligent design what was taught before modern theories on evolution were widely accepted?  And since then, some have been trying to re-introduce creation science and things like &#8220;flood geology&#8221; into the textbooks as alternatives?</p>
<p>So, we somehow went from having a crackpot explanation for things, then progressing to explaining them pretty darn well with evolution and modern geology, and now people that can&#8217;t let go of their pseudoscience want to keep their crazy ideas that have no basis alongside proven theories in schools.</p>
<p>Sad, just sad.</p>
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		<title>By: wintermute</title>
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		<dc:creator>wintermute</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;If someone were to try and argue with a mathematician that 2+2 equals 3, the mathematician would not get angry.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

First they would be amused. Then, as they fail to convince that 2+2=4, frustrated. Then, when a law is passed saying that 2+2=4 is &quot;just a theory&quot; and that public schools should teach &quot;alternatives to arithmetic&quot;, I think anger would start to show, yes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>If someone were to try and argue with a mathematician that 2+2 equals 3, the mathematician would not get angry.</p></blockquote>
<p>First they would be amused. Then, as they fail to convince that 2+2=4, frustrated. Then, when a law is passed saying that 2+2=4 is &#8220;just a theory&#8221; and that public schools should teach &#8220;alternatives to arithmetic&#8221;, I think anger would start to show, yes.</p>
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		<title>By: McBloggenstein</title>
		<link>http://unreasonablefaith.com/2008/12/12/atheist-xmas-tree-of-knowledge/#comment-7009</link>
		<dc:creator>McBloggenstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>-&quot;The quotes of passers-by reinforces my view that the pro-religionists have gone unchallenged for so long that they have taken for granted their privileged status.&quot;

Excellent point.  Sam Harris brings this up a lot.  Their extraordinary claims should not go unchallenged.

The very fact that people get so upset over the secularists/atheists wanting to make sure that they have a place next to a nativity scene on public property, is evidence that they are not 100% secure in their beliefs, and do not want them questioned because they would have to question them themselves.

If they were completely secure, I think they would be more likely to just feel sorry for the atheists, rather than to get upset.

If someone were to try and argue with a mathematician that 2+2 equals 3, the mathematician would not get angry.  2+2=4 is not an extraordinary claim, and does not require defence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>-&#8221;The quotes of passers-by reinforces my view that the pro-religionists have gone unchallenged for so long that they have taken for granted their privileged status.&#8221;</p>
<p>Excellent point.  Sam Harris brings this up a lot.  Their extraordinary claims should not go unchallenged.</p>
<p>The very fact that people get so upset over the secularists/atheists wanting to make sure that they have a place next to a nativity scene on public property, is evidence that they are not 100% secure in their beliefs, and do not want them questioned because they would have to question them themselves.</p>
<p>If they were completely secure, I think they would be more likely to just feel sorry for the atheists, rather than to get upset.</p>
<p>If someone were to try and argue with a mathematician that 2+2 equals 3, the mathematician would not get angry.  2+2=4 is not an extraordinary claim, and does not require defence.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathon</title>
		<link>http://unreasonablefaith.com/2008/12/12/atheist-xmas-tree-of-knowledge/#comment-7008</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 16:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I applaud the efforts of atheists and freethinkers who are challenging public religious displays.  I think that many people are thinking about the fairness of sectarian displays in public buildings for the first time.

The quotes of passers-by reinforces my view that the pro-religionists have gone unchallenged for so long that they have taken for granted their privileged status.  The inclusion of non-religious and non-Christian displays alongside sectarian ones points out the absurdity of putting such displays on public property in the first place.

There is no shortage of churches in this country.  There is no reason whatsoever that a public entity (city, county, state, Fed, etc.) should sanction religiously-themed holiday displays on public property, especially when the display has a clear sectarian purpose.

Let&#039;s keep our religious beliefs where they belong: in our personal lives.  Keep the government out of the discussion entirely.  The best solution is to allow NO displays at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I applaud the efforts of atheists and freethinkers who are challenging public religious displays.  I think that many people are thinking about the fairness of sectarian displays in public buildings for the first time.</p>
<p>The quotes of passers-by reinforces my view that the pro-religionists have gone unchallenged for so long that they have taken for granted their privileged status.  The inclusion of non-religious and non-Christian displays alongside sectarian ones points out the absurdity of putting such displays on public property in the first place.</p>
<p>There is no shortage of churches in this country.  There is no reason whatsoever that a public entity (city, county, state, Fed, etc.) should sanction religiously-themed holiday displays on public property, especially when the display has a clear sectarian purpose.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s keep our religious beliefs where they belong: in our personal lives.  Keep the government out of the discussion entirely.  The best solution is to allow NO displays at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Tina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 15:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pray all they want, doesn&#039;t work. Glad to hear of the tree!</description>
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