Some theists have juse enough sense to be embarrassed and leave when the realization that they are in way over their heads and have run out of ammo.

Others, sadly, just run around shouting, “pew pew pew, HA I got you, pew pew pew, I win, pew pew pew.”

Did you mean Genesis 1:6-10? Not 1 6:10? Cuz there is no such thing as 1 6:10??

Oh, my apologies for slightly misformatting it. Clearly, it was good enough for you to be able to figure out what I meant. Feel free to feel superior for the rest of the day, if you feel the need.

You take this to mean the (air, sky) is the divider of heaven (literal heaven) and the literal earth? God dividing the “waters” form the “waters”?

I don’t take it to mean anything. I’m just pointing out what it says. The firmament of the sky separates the waters of heaven from the waters of Earth. For more on the same theme, Genesis 7:11 describes heavy rain by saying “the windows of heaven were opened”, thus letting the water that is above the sky fall down onto Earth. Or do you believe that the floodwater spewed out from inside Noah?

2 Samuel 21:10 uses the same imagery. Genesis 1:20 says that birds fly in the open firmament of heaven.

Our original conversation here began with the idea of “sky fairies” if you will kindly remember…where are you going with this Winter?? I think we have gotten (way) off track my friend.

So, you ask why people think that the Christian god is supposed to live in the sky, and I respond with scriptural references that say that heaven is above the Earth, and that’s getting off the point? It seem to be exactly the point, to me. What kind of responses were you expecting?

my question to you is…exactly where can you find Him?

And my answer is “exactly nowhere”. Though some people think they’ve found something that they mistake for a god.

Up… up… it’s up there… you have to scroll up there… toward God… toward the sky… or at least toward the top of the page.

Did you mean Genesis 1:6-10? Not 1 6:10? Cuz there is no such thing as 1 6:10??

You take this to mean the (air, sky) is the divider of heaven (literal heaven) and the literal earth? God dividing the “waters” form the “waters”?

Our original conversation here began with the idea of “sky fairies” if you will kindly remember…where are you going with this Winter?? I think we have gotten (way) off track my friend.

You can look for Him all you want “up there”, but you will not find Him there…my question to you is…exactly where can you find Him?

Back on point.

He can’t seem to find his way back into the threads in which people have challenged him with rebuttals and specific questions.

Sorry Daniel, Bill, professoryackle -

I think he’ll never find his way back there again.

Go on. Surprise us. What is this code for?

No, it does NOT say in Genesis that the sky is a literal, physical barrier between Earth and heaven.

You completely avoided my comments about the real nature of man…you just cant imagine that there is more to you than you can see…with your eyes can you Winter?

You dont HAVE a soul, you HAVE a body, you ARE a soul. CS LEWIS

But honestly…I prefer his “master”, the brilliant George MacDonald, Scottish author, minister from the 1800’s…did I say brilliant?? lol

JC

John C
Daniel…

Sorry, I went to lunch

And he has been “out to lunch” long before, and ever since.

Go back to hard grinding agricultural or sweat-shop labor, child labor, grinding poverty, uncured disease, early deaths, deaths in childbirth, deaths in infancy, deaths in childhood. Women should “settle” for a good partner, says Lori Gottlieb – women shouldn’t divorce so easily or be so picky. Back then abuse and wife-beating were kept quiet as a private family matter. “Settle” for that, Lori Gottlieb! The agricultural life kept people out of getting education. Women not owning property.

Slavery, sure, if it was good enough for them, it’s good enough for us. Witch-hunts of any kind. Puritan judges and torturing? They didn’t kill witches back in old Salem; they killed people in old Salem. Inquisition anyone?

That’s what’s wrong with this country today: people are so new-fangled and immoral. We need to return to the good ol’ days!

*snort*

was Paul just as nutty as me? Afterall, he was a highly educated hebrew scholar of the “law” right?

Sure; why not? Are you trying to suggest that lawyers are all sane and sober people without any strange beliefs? Because I’ve worked with a few, and in my experience, they’re liable to be as nutty as the next guy.

Oh, and you don’t address why Genesis says that the sky is a literal, physical barrier between Earth and heaven. Is there a reason for this oversight, or do you just not want to admit that you can’t think of an alternate meaning for this clear statement?

First, His spirit calls for ours…if we respond He leads us into deeper spiritual truths…into His very presence.

Lets dont get the proverbial cart before the horse.

“The spirit realm is a higher/superior realm than the physical realm we are entombed in currently.”

Sorry, but there is no proof of this statement or that another realm even exists.

“how is it that I am to “walk in the spirit” (realm) now ”

Exactly. You are not. Simply claiming something does not make it true.

“And how is the kingdom of heaven within us as Jesus said. If so then there must be more to man(kind) than meets the eye.”

And how does one claim that the bible is accurate or even the inspired word of god….other than it claims to be? And at this point are we not begging the question? The Koran has a very different view on things…as does every religious text.

Quoting scripture means nothing to people who do not understand it to be the inspired word of god.