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	<title>Comments on: Why Psychoanalysis and Priests Don&#8217;t Mix</title>
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		<title>By: eiri</title>
		<link>http://unreasonablefaith.com/2009/05/06/why-psychoanalysis-and-priests-dont-mix/#comment-65353</link>
		<dc:creator>eiri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 12:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think that questioning is what scares the Church. More likely to be the simple fact that 40 prisests left. So, this &quot;pseudoscience&quot; obviuosly somehow worked pretty good with priestst :/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think that questioning is what scares the Church. More likely to be the simple fact that 40 prisests left. So, this &#8220;pseudoscience&#8221; obviuosly somehow worked pretty good with priestst :/</p>
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		<title>By: VidLord</title>
		<link>http://unreasonablefaith.com/2009/05/06/why-psychoanalysis-and-priests-dont-mix/#comment-36767</link>
		<dc:creator>VidLord</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 13:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>interesting. the sexual repression part reminds of a quote. something like &#039;that which you completely deny yourself, you are forever bound to&#039;   I believe that&#039;s why their sexuality gets corrupted into taking advantage of little boys. If you have everything in moderation you do not obsess on one particular thing. Because they deny themselves one of their most basic human desires, they inevitably bind themselves to their repression to the point of bastardization. I remember a story about monks wearing potatoe sacks as clothing so that they would itch and be uncomfortable all day long - for the honor and glory of god....I couldn&#039;t understand how an all powerful god would care!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>interesting. the sexual repression part reminds of a quote. something like &#8216;that which you completely deny yourself, you are forever bound to&#8217;   I believe that&#8217;s why their sexuality gets corrupted into taking advantage of little boys. If you have everything in moderation you do not obsess on one particular thing. Because they deny themselves one of their most basic human desires, they inevitably bind themselves to their repression to the point of bastardization. I remember a story about monks wearing potatoe sacks as clothing so that they would itch and be uncomfortable all day long &#8211; for the honor and glory of god&#8230;.I couldn&#8217;t understand how an all powerful god would care!</p>
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		<title>By: TheWrathOfOliverKhan</title>
		<link>http://unreasonablefaith.com/2009/05/06/why-psychoanalysis-and-priests-dont-mix/#comment-36580</link>
		<dc:creator>TheWrathOfOliverKhan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 13:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Certainly you can’t tell which milk has it and which doesn’t from reading the package; it’s not allowed to be printed on there.&lt;/i&gt;

Really? Because down here in the south, the Publix chain actually *does* put that information on their store-brand milk. It&#039;s the whole reason I buy it instead of organic milk - no hormones, but less expensive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Certainly you can’t tell which milk has it and which doesn’t from reading the package; it’s not allowed to be printed on there.</i></p>
<p>Really? Because down here in the south, the Publix chain actually *does* put that information on their store-brand milk. It&#8217;s the whole reason I buy it instead of organic milk &#8211; no hormones, but less expensive.</p>
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		<title>By: Francesc</title>
		<link>http://unreasonablefaith.com/2009/05/06/why-psychoanalysis-and-priests-dont-mix/#comment-36548</link>
		<dc:creator>Francesc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 08:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great assertions need great proofs!</description>
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		<title>By: dr.R.</title>
		<link>http://unreasonablefaith.com/2009/05/06/why-psychoanalysis-and-priests-dont-mix/#comment-36475</link>
		<dc:creator>dr.R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 00:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reminds me of a study I read about in the newspaper many years ago. Quite a few priests, it seems, chose to become so because they felt it was more or less expected from them by their parents, particularly their mother. But I don&#039;t have a reference to that particular survey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reminds me of a study I read about in the newspaper many years ago. Quite a few priests, it seems, chose to become so because they felt it was more or less expected from them by their parents, particularly their mother. But I don&#8217;t have a reference to that particular survey.</p>
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		<title>By: claidheamh mor</title>
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		<dc:creator>claidheamh mor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 00:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gag orders of some sort --- attempts at control of people --- not restricted to churches either:

You almost can&#039;t find information about rBGH. Certainly you can&#039;t tell which milk has it and which doesn&#039;t from reading the package; it&#039;s not allowed to be printed on there.

I think there was a gag order, or it&#039;s being considered, to make it illegal to discuss food contamination --- peoples might get all upset and not buy the food, and we can&#039;t have the peoples troubling their little heads with that when we know better than they do what&#039;s good for them. The food companies might lose business. Now &lt;i&gt;that&#039;s&lt;/i&gt; important. Much more so than people&#039;s health.

Suppress free communication if it might harm government, church, or business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gag orders of some sort &#8212; attempts at control of people &#8212; not restricted to churches either:</p>
<p>You almost can&#8217;t find information about rBGH. Certainly you can&#8217;t tell which milk has it and which doesn&#8217;t from reading the package; it&#8217;s not allowed to be printed on there.</p>
<p>I think there was a gag order, or it&#8217;s being considered, to make it illegal to discuss food contamination &#8212; peoples might get all upset and not buy the food, and we can&#8217;t have the peoples troubling their little heads with that when we know better than they do what&#8217;s good for them. The food companies might lose business. Now <i>that&#8217;s</i> important. Much more so than people&#8217;s health.</p>
<p>Suppress free communication if it might harm government, church, or business.</p>
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		<title>By: Karly</title>
		<link>http://unreasonablefaith.com/2009/05/06/why-psychoanalysis-and-priests-dont-mix/#comment-36406</link>
		<dc:creator>Karly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 20:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s ironic then isn&#039;t it?  Because the one possibly useful service that they provide to their parishioners, listening, is the thing they are denied.  That&#039;s just messed up.  Anyone who is forced to listen to many peoples gripes and failings all day would be in desperate need of a shrink.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s ironic then isn&#8217;t it?  Because the one possibly useful service that they provide to their parishioners, listening, is the thing they are denied.  That&#8217;s just messed up.  Anyone who is forced to listen to many peoples gripes and failings all day would be in desperate need of a shrink.</p>
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		<title>By: DarkMatter</title>
		<link>http://unreasonablefaith.com/2009/05/06/why-psychoanalysis-and-priests-dont-mix/#comment-36373</link>
		<dc:creator>DarkMatter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 18:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robotic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robotic.</p>
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		<title>By: rodneyAnonymous</title>
		<link>http://unreasonablefaith.com/2009/05/06/why-psychoanalysis-and-priests-dont-mix/#comment-36371</link>
		<dc:creator>rodneyAnonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 18:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just because something is not a science doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s useless :)  Just an aside.  Psychotherapy has been extremely helpful for me.  But I think a lot depends on the therapist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just because something is not a science doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s useless :)  Just an aside.  Psychotherapy has been extremely helpful for me.  But I think a lot depends on the therapist.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Florien</title>
		<link>http://unreasonablefaith.com/2009/05/06/why-psychoanalysis-and-priests-dont-mix/#comment-36350</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Florien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 17:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s strange... an explanation that explains everything is often wrong, yet the real explanation &lt;em&gt;will&lt;/em&gt; explain everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s strange&#8230; an explanation that explains everything is often wrong, yet the real explanation <em>will</em> explain everything.</p>
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		<title>By: Flea</title>
		<link>http://unreasonablefaith.com/2009/05/06/why-psychoanalysis-and-priests-dont-mix/#comment-36346</link>
		<dc:creator>Flea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 17:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know!</p>
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		<title>By: Question-I-thority</title>
		<link>http://unreasonablefaith.com/2009/05/06/why-psychoanalysis-and-priests-dont-mix/#comment-36334</link>
		<dc:creator>Question-I-thority</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 17:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The Papal Court answered this “threat” the following decree: “You will not maintain in public or in private psychoanalytical theory or practice, under threat of suspension as a priest, and you are rigorously forbidden under threat of destitution to suggest to candidates for the monastery that they should undergo psychoanalysis” (Singleton, 1967).&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Fascism at it&#039;s finest.  Notice the thought control.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The Papal Court answered this “threat” the following decree: “You will not maintain in public or in private psychoanalytical theory or practice, under threat of suspension as a priest, and you are rigorously forbidden under threat of destitution to suggest to candidates for the monastery that they should undergo psychoanalysis” (Singleton, 1967).</p></blockquote>
<p>Fascism at it&#8217;s finest.  Notice the thought control.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 15:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone watch this on PBS?
http://www.inquisitionproductions.com/

Secret Files of the Inquisition tells a story of epic proportions and powerful themes of Holy Wars and Crusades, of torture and terror, of the struggle for human rights and dignity. Based on previously unreleased secret documents from European Archives including the Vatican, Secret Files of the Inquisition unveils the incredible true story of the Catholic Church’s 500 year struggle to remain the world’s only true Christian religion. For over half a millennium a system of mass terror reigned. Thousands were subject to secret courts, torture and punishment. 
Filmed in High Definition, this production spans medieval France in Episode 1, 15th century Spain in Episode 2, Renaissance Italy in Episode 3 and mid-nineteenth century Europe in Episode 4.

The 4 x 60 mini-series reveals how the most powerful church on earth created the Inquisition to attack its enemies and preserve the unquestioned authority of the Pope. Historians, experts and Church authorities advise on the handling of this controversial subject matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone watch this on PBS?<br />
<a href="http://www.inquisitionproductions.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.inquisitionproductions.com/</a></p>
<p>Secret Files of the Inquisition tells a story of epic proportions and powerful themes of Holy Wars and Crusades, of torture and terror, of the struggle for human rights and dignity. Based on previously unreleased secret documents from European Archives including the Vatican, Secret Files of the Inquisition unveils the incredible true story of the Catholic Church’s 500 year struggle to remain the world’s only true Christian religion. For over half a millennium a system of mass terror reigned. Thousands were subject to secret courts, torture and punishment.<br />
Filmed in High Definition, this production spans medieval France in Episode 1, 15th century Spain in Episode 2, Renaissance Italy in Episode 3 and mid-nineteenth century Europe in Episode 4.</p>
<p>The 4 x 60 mini-series reveals how the most powerful church on earth created the Inquisition to attack its enemies and preserve the unquestioned authority of the Pope. Historians, experts and Church authorities advise on the handling of this controversial subject matter.</p>
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		<title>By: brgulker</title>
		<link>http://unreasonablefaith.com/2009/05/06/why-psychoanalysis-and-priests-dont-mix/#comment-36276</link>
		<dc:creator>brgulker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 15:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone know if this has been re-visited since the &#039;60&#039;s? I suspect not, but maybe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone know if this has been re-visited since the &#8217;60&#8217;s? I suspect not, but maybe.</p>
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		<title>By: brgulker</title>
		<link>http://unreasonablefaith.com/2009/05/06/why-psychoanalysis-and-priests-dont-mix/#comment-36274</link>
		<dc:creator>brgulker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 15:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, I guess I misread you then.

As an aside, good ideas about the inqdequcies of psychoanalysis here. It&#039;s definitely not a fix-all methodology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, I guess I misread you then.</p>
<p>As an aside, good ideas about the inqdequcies of psychoanalysis here. It&#8217;s definitely not a fix-all methodology.</p>
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