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	<title>Comments on: Gov Sanford: King David Didn&#8217;t Resign, So Neither Will I</title>
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		<title>By: Kayla</title>
		<link>http://unreasonablefaith.com/2009/06/29/gov-sanford-king-david-didnt-resign-so-neither-will-i/#comment-51100</link>
		<dc:creator>Kayla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 21:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About that story of King David.. I was recently reading up on that - the death of his bastard child with Bathsheba wasn&#039;t his only punishment - all of his wives/concubines were raped in broad daylight, as well. 

Also, he knocked Bathsheba up again shortly after the whole ordeal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About that story of King David.. I was recently reading up on that &#8211; the death of his bastard child with Bathsheba wasn&#8217;t his only punishment &#8211; all of his wives/concubines were raped in broad daylight, as well. </p>
<p>Also, he knocked Bathsheba up again shortly after the whole ordeal.</p>
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		<title>By: rodneyAnonymous</title>
		<link>http://unreasonablefaith.com/2009/06/29/gov-sanford-king-david-didnt-resign-so-neither-will-i/#comment-51062</link>
		<dc:creator>rodneyAnonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What?  No it&#039;s not.  The fact that there is no Egyptian record of the exodus is fairly strong evidence that it didn&#039;t happen.  The only sources are the Old Testament and some questionable support from Josephus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What?  No it&#8217;s not.  The fact that there is no Egyptian record of the exodus is fairly strong evidence that it didn&#8217;t happen.  The only sources are the Old Testament and some questionable support from Josephus.</p>
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		<title>By: Jabster</title>
		<link>http://unreasonablefaith.com/2009/06/29/gov-sanford-king-david-didnt-resign-so-neither-will-i/#comment-51059</link>
		<dc:creator>Jabster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 16:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh come on, that&#039;s becuase god wanted to test your faith. It&#039;s in the Bible so it must be your interpretation of the evidence that is incorrect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh come on, that&#8217;s becuase god wanted to test your faith. It&#8217;s in the Bible so it must be your interpretation of the evidence that is incorrect.</p>
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		<title>By: Yoav</title>
		<link>http://unreasonablefaith.com/2009/06/29/gov-sanford-king-david-didnt-resign-so-neither-will-i/#comment-51058</link>
		<dc:creator>Yoav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 16:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Egyptians failed to write anything about all these miracles Moses was doing and a whole nation of slaves leaving the country. Are you in anyway suggesting that the exodus of the Isrealites is not an undisputble historical fact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Egyptians failed to write anything about all these miracles Moses was doing and a whole nation of slaves leaving the country. Are you in anyway suggesting that the exodus of the Isrealites is not an undisputble historical fact.</p>
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		<title>By: Ty</title>
		<link>http://unreasonablefaith.com/2009/06/29/gov-sanford-king-david-didnt-resign-so-neither-will-i/#comment-50940</link>
		<dc:creator>Ty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So THAT&#039;S what &#039;stimulus money&#039; means.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So THAT&#8217;S what &#8217;stimulus money&#8217; means.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark D</title>
		<link>http://unreasonablefaith.com/2009/06/29/gov-sanford-king-david-didnt-resign-so-neither-will-i/#comment-50906</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, he is getting more like King David everyday.  Maybe next one of his sons will try and kill him to become governor.</description>
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		<title>By: Kodie</title>
		<link>http://unreasonablefaith.com/2009/06/29/gov-sanford-king-david-didnt-resign-so-neither-will-i/#comment-50893</link>
		<dc:creator>Kodie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think everybody gets married with the idea they are in awe of their solid union, and work together like a soulmate partnership. I really don&#039;t. I think that&#039;s a romantic ideal, but the fact is almost everybody seems to find someone who will take them and a lot of those take a lot of money and throw it at one day and invite people to the ritual exclamation that they&#039;re filed by the state. They might even stand up in a church or other religious area, officiated by a clergy and not someone who actually represents the state. Some of these people may even take it to deep deep heart, they are madly religious and/or earnest in their vows. I think the vows and at least some of the religious portions of them are a lot to live up to, and though some people can, not everybody will even partially mean any of them. 

Faithfulness is one part of the vow. It&#039;s not a legal requirement, some people look the other way even. Or forgive.

Love, honor, cherish, maybe even respect. Oh dear lord, this cracks me up. And the in good times and bad, in sickness and in health, for richer or poorer until death do us part. 

How many people keep all of those vows? They are two humans trying to figure out who gets control of the remote and who takes a day off when their kid is sick. That&#039;s reality, bub. What to do when they can&#039;t afford their house, whether and how much to give allowance, if it&#039;s time to fix the roof or get a new washing machine, and whether to name their baby, get this, Farmer or Elizabella. 

You are really stretching the point of even making a vow, projecting your own values on everybody else. Yes, I really came to that conclusion. The office of a politician, who is in charge of carrying forth the duties and obligations of his office may be crooked or he may be honest. He may be mostly honest and only a little crooked. Meanwhile in his personal marriage side of life, he may never stray, but he gets mad when she shops too much and they run out of beer or she won&#039;t let him watch football because there&#039;s a Melissa Gilbert marathon on E! True Hollywood Stories. 

We are all in the promise-making business. Whether or not we are governing as a true politician, we are microcosms of that promise, to abide by laws and with all our personal flaws, most people do right by their friends who elect them to be friends because they are a good person to know and don&#039;t cheat them. We accept each other as not perfect and get on with our lives. We enter into agreements every day - I pay you money, you provide this service or product. I agree to the price, you provide certain guarantees of quality. 

You are holding marriage, not just your marriage, but all marriages, up to an idealistic level, based only on words, words you meant when you said them to your wife, I presume. But anyway, when I do my job, I do my job. Some people do what they got to do, and some people push a little harder and are really stellar examples of how to go. Some people suck at it, this is usually the quality of person you get for the wages you can pay. Not everybody is keeping their end of the bargain, but apparently most of us are adequate. 

I do think keeping promises is important to the best of one&#039;s ability, but I think there&#039;s a problem when you project idealistic notions onto other people&#039;s relationships. Fact is, almost everybody finds someone who can stand them at all, and they get along ok. That&#039;s the bottom line on those vows. Even politicians are people, but I believe for the most part, they are business-like people who do their job well enough, and also who may take credit for another person&#039;s idea, smile and shake your hand when they really hate you, treat their staff a little too much like servants, feel entitled to perks they are allowed to take advantage of, and sit at their desk sometimes playing FreeCell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think everybody gets married with the idea they are in awe of their solid union, and work together like a soulmate partnership. I really don&#8217;t. I think that&#8217;s a romantic ideal, but the fact is almost everybody seems to find someone who will take them and a lot of those take a lot of money and throw it at one day and invite people to the ritual exclamation that they&#8217;re filed by the state. They might even stand up in a church or other religious area, officiated by a clergy and not someone who actually represents the state. Some of these people may even take it to deep deep heart, they are madly religious and/or earnest in their vows. I think the vows and at least some of the religious portions of them are a lot to live up to, and though some people can, not everybody will even partially mean any of them. </p>
<p>Faithfulness is one part of the vow. It&#8217;s not a legal requirement, some people look the other way even. Or forgive.</p>
<p>Love, honor, cherish, maybe even respect. Oh dear lord, this cracks me up. And the in good times and bad, in sickness and in health, for richer or poorer until death do us part. </p>
<p>How many people keep all of those vows? They are two humans trying to figure out who gets control of the remote and who takes a day off when their kid is sick. That&#8217;s reality, bub. What to do when they can&#8217;t afford their house, whether and how much to give allowance, if it&#8217;s time to fix the roof or get a new washing machine, and whether to name their baby, get this, Farmer or Elizabella. </p>
<p>You are really stretching the point of even making a vow, projecting your own values on everybody else. Yes, I really came to that conclusion. The office of a politician, who is in charge of carrying forth the duties and obligations of his office may be crooked or he may be honest. He may be mostly honest and only a little crooked. Meanwhile in his personal marriage side of life, he may never stray, but he gets mad when she shops too much and they run out of beer or she won&#8217;t let him watch football because there&#8217;s a Melissa Gilbert marathon on E! True Hollywood Stories. </p>
<p>We are all in the promise-making business. Whether or not we are governing as a true politician, we are microcosms of that promise, to abide by laws and with all our personal flaws, most people do right by their friends who elect them to be friends because they are a good person to know and don&#8217;t cheat them. We accept each other as not perfect and get on with our lives. We enter into agreements every day &#8211; I pay you money, you provide this service or product. I agree to the price, you provide certain guarantees of quality. </p>
<p>You are holding marriage, not just your marriage, but all marriages, up to an idealistic level, based only on words, words you meant when you said them to your wife, I presume. But anyway, when I do my job, I do my job. Some people do what they got to do, and some people push a little harder and are really stellar examples of how to go. Some people suck at it, this is usually the quality of person you get for the wages you can pay. Not everybody is keeping their end of the bargain, but apparently most of us are adequate. </p>
<p>I do think keeping promises is important to the best of one&#8217;s ability, but I think there&#8217;s a problem when you project idealistic notions onto other people&#8217;s relationships. Fact is, almost everybody finds someone who can stand them at all, and they get along ok. That&#8217;s the bottom line on those vows. Even politicians are people, but I believe for the most part, they are business-like people who do their job well enough, and also who may take credit for another person&#8217;s idea, smile and shake your hand when they really hate you, treat their staff a little too much like servants, feel entitled to perks they are allowed to take advantage of, and sit at their desk sometimes playing FreeCell.</p>
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		<title>By: Ty</title>
		<link>http://unreasonablefaith.com/2009/06/29/gov-sanford-king-david-didnt-resign-so-neither-will-i/#comment-50875</link>
		<dc:creator>Ty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The answer to that is, cut off a couple hundred Philistine foreskins and then dance so badly that his wife hates him forever afterward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The answer to that is, cut off a couple hundred Philistine foreskins and then dance so badly that his wife hates him forever afterward.</p>
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		<title>By: Siberia</title>
		<link>http://unreasonablefaith.com/2009/06/29/gov-sanford-king-david-didnt-resign-so-neither-will-i/#comment-50839</link>
		<dc:creator>Siberia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d say one should be skeptical of &lt;i&gt;anyone&lt;/i&gt; who willingly wants power. But then, that may be the paranoia talking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d say one should be skeptical of <i>anyone</i> who willingly wants power. But then, that may be the paranoia talking.</p>
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		<title>By: Sunny Day</title>
		<link>http://unreasonablefaith.com/2009/06/29/gov-sanford-king-david-didnt-resign-so-neither-will-i/#comment-50838</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunny Day</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes I read it. Your analogy was flawed. 

In the first part:where you quoted someone else, &quot;If you weren’t a Bible-thumper and were not using public funds to pay for your fling, then I’d say it was none of our business.&quot; We have 2 things, a violation of a personal oath to a spouse, and a demonstrated abuse of power.

In the 2nd part where you tried to draw an analogy to Clinton, all you have is a violation of a personal oath to a spouse. 

Sure both politicians can&#039;t be trusted, as apparently all divorcees can&#039;t be trusted. One of them proved that they aggregoiusly abuse their power for personal satisfaction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes I read it. Your analogy was flawed. </p>
<p>In the first part:where you quoted someone else, &#8220;If you weren’t a Bible-thumper and were not using public funds to pay for your fling, then I’d say it was none of our business.&#8221; We have 2 things, a violation of a personal oath to a spouse, and a demonstrated abuse of power.</p>
<p>In the 2nd part where you tried to draw an analogy to Clinton, all you have is a violation of a personal oath to a spouse. </p>
<p>Sure both politicians can&#8217;t be trusted, as apparently all divorcees can&#8217;t be trusted. One of them proved that they aggregoiusly abuse their power for personal satisfaction.</p>
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		<title>By: Reginald Selkirk</title>
		<link>http://unreasonablefaith.com/2009/06/29/gov-sanford-king-david-didnt-resign-so-neither-will-i/#comment-50829</link>
		<dc:creator>Reginald Selkirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090630/ap_on_re_us/us_sc_governor&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Sanford lied about number of trysts&lt;/a&gt;

I wonder if he has a WWDD bumper sticker on his limo; &quot;What Would David Do?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090630/ap_on_re_us/us_sc_governor" rel="nofollow">Sanford lied about number of trysts</a></p>
<p>I wonder if he has a WWDD bumper sticker on his limo; &#8220;What Would David Do?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Felix</title>
		<link>http://unreasonablefaith.com/2009/06/29/gov-sanford-king-david-didnt-resign-so-neither-will-i/#comment-50810</link>
		<dc:creator>Felix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do as God says, not as he does. And do as David does, not as he says. And do as Jesus says, not as he does when he is who he says he is, which is who he was when he said to do as he said not as he did.

GOT IT?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do as God says, not as he does. And do as David does, not as he says. And do as Jesus says, not as he does when he is who he says he is, which is who he was when he said to do as he said not as he did.</p>
<p>GOT IT?</p>
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		<title>By: Felix</title>
		<link>http://unreasonablefaith.com/2009/06/29/gov-sanford-king-david-didnt-resign-so-neither-will-i/#comment-50807</link>
		<dc:creator>Felix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pure coincidence I assure you. But very funny now that you point it out. My subconscious knowledge may have made the association. Fascinating thing, this brain stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pure coincidence I assure you. But very funny now that you point it out. My subconscious knowledge may have made the association. Fascinating thing, this brain stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: brgulker</title>
		<link>http://unreasonablefaith.com/2009/06/29/gov-sanford-king-david-didnt-resign-so-neither-will-i/#comment-50792</link>
		<dc:creator>brgulker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, that&#039;s mind-bendingly stupid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, that&#8217;s mind-bendingly stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: Reginald Selkirk</title>
		<link>http://unreasonablefaith.com/2009/06/29/gov-sanford-king-david-didnt-resign-so-neither-will-i/#comment-50789</link>
		<dc:creator>Reginald Selkirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Sanford makes any more comments about how he should stay in office (which personally I don&#039;t care about), they should be coupled with an admission that he was wrong in what he said about bill Clinton and wrong to vote for impeachment. If eh can&#039;t do that, I don&#039;t see why we should take him seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Sanford makes any more comments about how he should stay in office (which personally I don&#8217;t care about), they should be coupled with an admission that he was wrong in what he said about bill Clinton and wrong to vote for impeachment. If eh can&#8217;t do that, I don&#8217;t see why we should take him seriously.</p>
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