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	<title>Comments on: Gays, Porn, and Abortion — The Reason for Our Financial Crisis?</title>
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		<title>By: Michael R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Take me with you, brother!</description>
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		<title>By: LIlith</title>
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		<dc:creator>LIlith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 23:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Janet Green: Do you know why christians link child abuse with homosexuality?  Because the mayority of real child abusers are christians. Look in the FBI website and most sites dedicated to fight against child porn. You&#039;ll found that some of the characteristics to look in a pedo are: man, white, straight, religious fundamentalist (mostly protestant), important member to community, respected, ... In other words beware of the pastor/preacher of your local church literaly, more than the strange lonely man that probably is an ex con living in the street!!! I met a woman in myspace where she is fighting adainst pedos. She was the wife of a preacher. He raped at least two of their three daughters. She accused him. when she claimed to him for it, he answered her with a biblical verse when it said what he did was good. The church people went against her to the point she had to move out of the state. The preacher was arrested but never went ot prison, he was given only like some clases or something, nothing more. The worst of this he managed to manipulate their daughters. And they resulted the type of victim that protect at all costs their perpetrator. Yes to this day they defend him. So the real child abusers came from the fundamental christians community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Janet Green: Do you know why christians link child abuse with homosexuality?  Because the mayority of real child abusers are christians. Look in the FBI website and most sites dedicated to fight against child porn. You&#8217;ll found that some of the characteristics to look in a pedo are: man, white, straight, religious fundamentalist (mostly protestant), important member to community, respected, &#8230; In other words beware of the pastor/preacher of your local church literaly, more than the strange lonely man that probably is an ex con living in the street!!! I met a woman in myspace where she is fighting adainst pedos. She was the wife of a preacher. He raped at least two of their three daughters. She accused him. when she claimed to him for it, he answered her with a biblical verse when it said what he did was good. The church people went against her to the point she had to move out of the state. The preacher was arrested but never went ot prison, he was given only like some clases or something, nothing more. The worst of this he managed to manipulate their daughters. And they resulted the type of victim that protect at all costs their perpetrator. Yes to this day they defend him. So the real child abusers came from the fundamental christians community.</p>
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		<title>By: Janet Greene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janet Greene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 08:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to admit, this really triggers me. It was greed that destroyed the economy - and this started in earnest with the christian right and the repubs. Like when Nixon got his little head together with Kaiser and started the incredibly corrupt system of HMO&#039;s so that a few people could get wealthy on the misery of others by minimizing health care. And things got worse when the religious people got involved in the 80&#039;s. It&#039;s incredible to me when christians lump together being gay with child abuse and rape too - as if it&#039;s the same thing!  A loving relationship between two consenting adults is beautiful. Forced sex or sex with a child (who cannot consent) is sick. Sex between consenting adults is not immoral - never was, never will be. In fact, I&#039;m not sure how sex got all tied up with the concept of morality. To me, morality is about being kind, generous, loving, respecting the earth, animals, people, etc. Sex has absolutely nothing to do with morality. It&#039;s religion that has twisted sex into something sick and perverted - something to feel guilty about. This is what creates sexual deviants, in my view. So for a religious fundie (and this one sounds particularly evil to me if you&#039;ll excuse the religiously loaded term) to say that gays are responsible for the economic breakdown, it&#039;s not just ridiculous. It&#039;s scary, sad, and overwhelming to me because there are so many people who agree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to admit, this really triggers me. It was greed that destroyed the economy &#8211; and this started in earnest with the christian right and the repubs. Like when Nixon got his little head together with Kaiser and started the incredibly corrupt system of HMO&#8217;s so that a few people could get wealthy on the misery of others by minimizing health care. And things got worse when the religious people got involved in the 80&#8217;s. It&#8217;s incredible to me when christians lump together being gay with child abuse and rape too &#8211; as if it&#8217;s the same thing!  A loving relationship between two consenting adults is beautiful. Forced sex or sex with a child (who cannot consent) is sick. Sex between consenting adults is not immoral &#8211; never was, never will be. In fact, I&#8217;m not sure how sex got all tied up with the concept of morality. To me, morality is about being kind, generous, loving, respecting the earth, animals, people, etc. Sex has absolutely nothing to do with morality. It&#8217;s religion that has twisted sex into something sick and perverted &#8211; something to feel guilty about. This is what creates sexual deviants, in my view. So for a religious fundie (and this one sounds particularly evil to me if you&#8217;ll excuse the religiously loaded term) to say that gays are responsible for the economic breakdown, it&#8217;s not just ridiculous. It&#8217;s scary, sad, and overwhelming to me because there are so many people who agree.</p>
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		<title>By: Kodie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kodie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 02:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The financial crisis is threatening what material wealth they hold dear. See, this is how it works. It&#039;s god&#039;s will until it affects you personally, and then when you&#039;ve prayed to Jesus as much as you could and you still can&#039;t afford your big house and maybe your other house, and your giant trucks, or to have your hair coiffed real big and frosty at your standing appointment at the beauty parlor, and those golf clubs you saw in a magazine, then you just have to look around and see who is pulling down the average and hassle them! 

See, some people think they are blessed and that&#039;s why they have such a comfortable life, and economics is an invisible force that has little to do with it. Threaten to take what they have and rather than think consistently there, that god is singling them out for punishment, they seem to think we&#039;re on a team all of a sudden and it&#039;s the stragglers of faith, the gays and the whatever sin that&#039;s not oh, greed and vanity. Pull your weight by having hetero married sex, each and every, so we&#039;ll all be safe from whatever that thing is that&#039;s sucking all our jobs and money down the toilet. Eco blah blah blah. God&#039;s just pissed is all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The financial crisis is threatening what material wealth they hold dear. See, this is how it works. It&#8217;s god&#8217;s will until it affects you personally, and then when you&#8217;ve prayed to Jesus as much as you could and you still can&#8217;t afford your big house and maybe your other house, and your giant trucks, or to have your hair coiffed real big and frosty at your standing appointment at the beauty parlor, and those golf clubs you saw in a magazine, then you just have to look around and see who is pulling down the average and hassle them! </p>
<p>See, some people think they are blessed and that&#8217;s why they have such a comfortable life, and economics is an invisible force that has little to do with it. Threaten to take what they have and rather than think consistently there, that god is singling them out for punishment, they seem to think we&#8217;re on a team all of a sudden and it&#8217;s the stragglers of faith, the gays and the whatever sin that&#8217;s not oh, greed and vanity. Pull your weight by having hetero married sex, each and every, so we&#8217;ll all be safe from whatever that thing is that&#8217;s sucking all our jobs and money down the toilet. Eco blah blah blah. God&#8217;s just pissed is all.</p>
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		<title>By: Olaf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Olaf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 20:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again more proof of an Evil God. 
The poor that prays the most gets punished while the rich that has no time for prayer gets rewarded. Maybe the poor did not pray enough. 

Interestingly, I am Atheist and I do not get punished.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again more proof of an Evil God.<br />
The poor that prays the most gets punished while the rich that has no time for prayer gets rewarded. Maybe the poor did not pray enough. </p>
<p>Interestingly, I am Atheist and I do not get punished.</p>
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		<title>By: claidheamh mor</title>
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		<dc:creator>claidheamh mor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hahahahaha! What, no headline?

&quot;No South Carolina Trial for Governor Fail with Argentine Tail on the Appalachian Trail&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hahahahaha! What, no headline?</p>
<p>&#8220;No South Carolina Trial for Governor Fail with Argentine Tail on the Appalachian Trail&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Mark D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Appalachian Trail or Argentine Tail</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Appalachian Trail or Argentine Tail</p>
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		<title>By: AZ Senator Says Earth Is 6,000 Years Old &#124; Unreasonable Faith</title>
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		<dc:creator>AZ Senator Says Earth Is 6,000 Years Old &#124; Unreasonable Faith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the Oklahoma representative says God is sending the economic crisis because of the gays, and now the AZ senator says the earth is only 6,000 years [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the Oklahoma representative says God is sending the economic crisis because of the gays, and now the AZ senator says the earth is only 6,000 years [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Felix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Felix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 08:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arizona seems to be equally bad:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtzJhTfQiMA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arizona seems to be equally bad:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtzJhTfQiMA" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtzJhTfQiMA</a></p>
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		<title>By: Baconsbud</title>
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		<dc:creator>Baconsbud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 08:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think that this is a natural recession because laws pasted in the last 15 years made it easy for people who put their greed ahead of all things to manipulate the market. Some people within the christian religion have made greed a sign of favor from god, thus they pushed those in the government to pass laws that weren&#039;t in the best interest of most Americans but in their favor. In an earlier comment you brought up the civil rights issue and yeah it was christians that passed those laws. Would those laws have been passed if a vast number of Americans not been demanding them? That is one of the difference I see in the two actions. A few truly wanted the financial laws, while a large number of Americans wanted the the civil rights laws.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think that this is a natural recession because laws pasted in the last 15 years made it easy for people who put their greed ahead of all things to manipulate the market. Some people within the christian religion have made greed a sign of favor from god, thus they pushed those in the government to pass laws that weren&#8217;t in the best interest of most Americans but in their favor. In an earlier comment you brought up the civil rights issue and yeah it was christians that passed those laws. Would those laws have been passed if a vast number of Americans not been demanding them? That is one of the difference I see in the two actions. A few truly wanted the financial laws, while a large number of Americans wanted the the civil rights laws.</p>
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		<title>By: Felix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Felix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 08:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By fundie theology, God does not reward good deeds (except for submission), and punishes bad ones. So, the safe path is to accept Jesus as savior and then lie down and do nothing else until you die.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By fundie theology, God does not reward good deeds (except for submission), and punishes bad ones. So, the safe path is to accept Jesus as savior and then lie down and do nothing else until you die.</p>
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		<title>By: claidheamh mor</title>
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		<dc:creator>claidheamh mor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 05:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I think they do that. Satan, and not their own hatred or lousy diet or misogyny or overpopulation or the way they treated their children....

But, they also have the burden of being born evil. They have no worth. Therefore, they need saving and redeeming. And in the dark night of their alone time, they wonder, &quot;What&#039;s wrong with me? Why does God seem to love everybody else except me? Why can&#039;t I hear Him? Why is my conversation with God so one-sided? What do I do? Why do I still feel bad? Why do I not have the peace that passes understanding?&quot;

I am learning, by reading this site, that some people do not have these doubts. Some of them stay out of mental hospitals, or bomb buildings, or kill someone because God told them to do it, or kill doctors, or force women to have children they don&#039;t want, or post walls of post to this site.... 

The christians who don&#039;t have doubts, the absolutely certain ones, watch out for them.... what they might do to people if the laws weren&#039;t enforced.... scary, chilling, frightening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I think they do that. Satan, and not their own hatred or lousy diet or misogyny or overpopulation or the way they treated their children&#8230;.</p>
<p>But, they also have the burden of being born evil. They have no worth. Therefore, they need saving and redeeming. And in the dark night of their alone time, they wonder, &#8220;What&#8217;s wrong with me? Why does God seem to love everybody else except me? Why can&#8217;t I hear Him? Why is my conversation with God so one-sided? What do I do? Why do I still feel bad? Why do I not have the peace that passes understanding?&#8221;</p>
<p>I am learning, by reading this site, that some people do not have these doubts. Some of them stay out of mental hospitals, or bomb buildings, or kill someone because God told them to do it, or kill doctors, or force women to have children they don&#8217;t want, or post walls of post to this site&#8230;. </p>
<p>The christians who don&#8217;t have doubts, the absolutely certain ones, watch out for them&#8230;. what they might do to people if the laws weren&#8217;t enforced&#8230;. scary, chilling, frightening.</p>
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		<title>By: LRA</title>
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		<dc:creator>LRA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 02:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I revise my statement. The Texas Constitution is subject to the US Constitution, and it deals with religion in its Bill of Rights:

http://tarlton.law.utexas.edu/constitutions/text/IART01.html

I imagine most states have something similar...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I revise my statement. The Texas Constitution is subject to the US Constitution, and it deals with religion in its Bill of Rights:</p>
<p><a href="http://tarlton.law.utexas.edu/constitutions/text/IART01.html" rel="nofollow">http://tarlton.law.utexas.edu/constitutions/text/IART01.html</a></p>
<p>I imagine most states have something similar&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: LRA</title>
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		<dc:creator>LRA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 02:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok- keep livin&#039; that dream if you like...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok- keep livin&#8217; that dream if you like&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 01:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Except the great depression was caused by the colossally inept actions of the Federal Reserve (contracting money supply). We however are in a recession a natural part of the market economy that is different for a depression which stem from political policies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Except the great depression was caused by the colossally inept actions of the Federal Reserve (contracting money supply). We however are in a recession a natural part of the market economy that is different for a depression which stem from political policies.</p>
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