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Meh. Atheism isn’t like belonging to a church or an organised group for me. I don’t see the need to have declarations of atheism all over me. There and again, I don’t live in America.
Yeah, I don’t either. But I guess it gives an alternative to kids who feel pressure to do something like this that’s religious, but want to do something that’s similar in nature but with a rational foundation.
If atheists are not willing to encourage ueber-cheeziness like this, we risk letting religions rushing in to fill the void. People turn to religions because they need orienting creedal statements, rituals, communal organization, identity, etc. We can either provide an alternative for those who need it or we let those people turn to religion when they feel those needs. It’s just that simple.
This reminds me all too clearly of the promise ring movement form back when I was in high school.
I dunno… to me, secular values do not need to mimic religious ones. I agree it could give something for non-religious kids to cling to socially, but wouldn’t wearing a pinky ring just invite religious kids to proselytize them that much more? That’d be annoying.
The promise ring? http://treelobsters.blogspot.com/2009/10/88-ring.html :D
^ Awesome.
Never heard of Tree Lobsters. May have to check them out.
I think organized sience class would help. Some place where children can have fun and play with science like space camp.
So, are we now imitating the Christians (Virginity pledge)…? pretty weak.
Thank you. I feel the same way and think that the idea is supposed to be promoted not to be promoted for difference.
No matter how much I agree with the ad in regards to how I will live my life and hopefully end up raising my children, I still find this ad to be just as corny and creepy.
At about the 1 minute mark, the kid the red shirt makes a comment about “…accepting dogma or superstition that I don’t believe in…” making it sound like it’s okay to accept dogma or superstition if you DO believe in it. I think it might be better if the kid said he wasn’t going to accept unconsidered dogma or anything considered to be superstition.
The guy in red was hot. Everything else was stated opposition to or differing views to christianity. They were pointing out how they differed and than offered a way to be apart of their group. The same way the crazy virgin pledges do
It’s great that younger people are being involved with secular humanism but I don’t think that the ‘Pinky Swear’ is necessary. In fact, I think that it may be a bit much as it’s causing further
ostracization. I think that secular humanism needs to be promoted no differently than is peace, love, and humanity. People are causing this to become too much of an idea of difference than what it’s actually supposed to stand for.
They are so self assured. So convinced. You can see it in their eyes.
I used to be this way. Everyone who didn’t agree was a blind fool. I knew the truth – and these people in the video have that same arrogance – they know. If you think you know the truth you project this arrogance. You are sure and the others are blind, foolish flock that need guidance. It is up to you with your sound, amazing wisdom to teach them the way.
lol i just watched the video again. For some reason I thought it was a “keep my virginity” type video. Ha! i like what they are doing but the whole pinky ring thing? Not necessary. Change your mind – not your fingers. Who cares what others see on your hand.
um, their young men and women between 17 and 23. They are blind fools and everyone else is wrong about everything. The men are young, dumb and full of cum and the women are crude, rude and want to be lewd, what else do you expect from someone that age
It’s like someone just bought iMovie and was determined to use every effect it had.
I guess I can see the benefits of it. Too bad a pinky ring makes you look like a douchebag.
I have often felt like a silenced minority as an atheist, and although this is very cheezy, I appreciate it because it is a way for secular humanists to become somewhat organized. Without organization, it’s more difficult to have political power to change the current religious political structure (in the US and to some extent in Canada where i live). I also think that young people like to have a “creed”, or something concrete to live by. Someone else said it on this thread – if we don’t do it, religion will fill that void. It is also beneficial for christians to see this – maybe they will re-evaluate their concept of atheists as black-cape-wearing beasts with red horns.