Comments on: What Happened to Global Warming? http://unreasonablefaith.com/2009/10/15/what-happened-to-global-warming/ Reasonable Thoughts on Religion, Science, Skepticism, and Atheism Sat, 20 Mar 2010 06:35:10 -0400 hourly 1 By: Aor http://unreasonablefaith.com/2009/10/15/what-happened-to-global-warming/#comment-67396 Aor Tue, 20 Oct 2009 03:45:20 +0000 http://unreasonablefaith.com/?p=7634#comment-67396 The amount of money in green research is trivial compared to that in established industries such as oil extraction, mining, etc. My guess is that it would be orders of magnitude smaller, considering the size of US Steel, BP, etc. Is there a multi-billion dollar green company in the world yet? The amount of money in green research is trivial compared to that in established industries such as oil extraction, mining, etc. My guess is that it would be orders of magnitude smaller, considering the size of US Steel, BP, etc. Is there a multi-billion dollar green company in the world yet?

]]> By: Reginald Selkirk http://unreasonablefaith.com/2009/10/15/what-happened-to-global-warming/#comment-67316 Reginald Selkirk Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:01:35 +0000 http://unreasonablefaith.com/?p=7634#comment-67316 A new book, Superfreakonomics, takes up the question of dealing with global warming. Unfortunately, they don't seem to have a firm grasp of their subject matter. <a href="http://leftasanexercise.simulating-reality.com/?p=90" rel="nofollow">FAIL: Superfreakonomics</a> <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2009/10/why_everything_in_superfreakon.php" rel="nofollow">Why Everything in Superfreakonomics About Global Warming Is Wrong</a> A new book, Superfreakonomics, takes up the question of dealing with global warming. Unfortunately, they don’t seem to have a firm grasp of their subject matter.

FAIL: Superfreakonomics

Why Everything in Superfreakonomics About Global Warming Is Wrong

]]> By: Ty http://unreasonablefaith.com/2009/10/15/what-happened-to-global-warming/#comment-66895 Ty Fri, 16 Oct 2009 19:18:50 +0000 http://unreasonablefaith.com/?p=7634#comment-66895 We could <a href="http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20115383,00.html" rel="nofollow">blow up the moon.</a> We could blow up the moon.

]]> By: LKL http://unreasonablefaith.com/2009/10/15/what-happened-to-global-warming/#comment-66893 LKL Fri, 16 Oct 2009 19:16:22 +0000 http://unreasonablefaith.com/?p=7634#comment-66893 Maybe 2% of my opinion about the theory of evolution is doubt, and maybe 3% of my opinion of climate change theory is doubt; maybe 5% doubt for the idea that it is anthropogenic. As far as industrial conspiracy theories go, here's some evidence: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/24/science/earth/24deny.html?_r=1 http://documents.nytimes.com/global-climate-coalition-aiam-climate-change-primer#p=1 http://www.democracynow.org/2009/8/21/astroturf_activism_leaked_memo_reveals_oil http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Competitive_Enterprise_Institute/Competitive_Enterprise_Institute_And_Global_Warming http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Heartland_Institute Maybe 2% of my opinion about the theory of evolution is doubt, and maybe 3% of my opinion of climate change theory is doubt; maybe 5% doubt for the idea that it is anthropogenic.

As far as industrial conspiracy theories go, here’s some evidence:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/24/science/earth/24deny.html?_r=1

http://documents.nytimes.com/global-climate-coalition-aiam-climate-change-primer#p=1

http://www.democracynow.org/2009/8/21/astroturf_activism_leaked_memo_reveals_oil

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Competitive_Enterprise_Institute/Competitive_Enterprise_Institute_And_Global_Warming

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Heartland_Institute

]]> By: Dave http://unreasonablefaith.com/2009/10/15/what-happened-to-global-warming/#comment-66821 Dave Fri, 16 Oct 2009 16:26:27 +0000 http://unreasonablefaith.com/?p=7634#comment-66821 Recently in the news: Arctic sea ice will disappear within a decade. Global warming alive and well - just ask an Eskimo. Recently in the news: Arctic sea ice will disappear within a decade.

Global warming alive and well – just ask an Eskimo.

]]> By: Ty http://unreasonablefaith.com/2009/10/15/what-happened-to-global-warming/#comment-66819 Ty Fri, 16 Oct 2009 16:22:00 +0000 http://unreasonablefaith.com/?p=7634#comment-66819 But I expect you to be rigorous! Rigorous!!! My brain has placed you in the box marked "Rigorous" and once you go in the box, that's just your box from then on. Just like Phranky is in the "Evil Clown" box. But I expect you to be rigorous!

Rigorous!!!

My brain has placed you in the box marked “Rigorous” and once you go in the box, that’s just your box from then on. Just like Phranky is in the “Evil Clown” box.

]]> By: Burp http://unreasonablefaith.com/2009/10/15/what-happened-to-global-warming/#comment-66802 Burp Fri, 16 Oct 2009 12:47:43 +0000 http://unreasonablefaith.com/?p=7634#comment-66802 Hear, hear, Alex. Hear, hear, Alex.

]]> By: Nick http://unreasonablefaith.com/2009/10/15/what-happened-to-global-warming/#comment-66794 Nick Fri, 16 Oct 2009 09:27:07 +0000 http://unreasonablefaith.com/?p=7634#comment-66794 I don't know, it seems more like you're not reading clearly. A) I'm addressing climate change, not "global warming". Global warming is an outdated terminology that inaccurately reflects the scope and nature of anthropogenic effects on the world's ecosystems. B) Note my phrasing: "The conclusion reached about climate change is made with only marginally less provisional certainty than our conclusions about evolution or general relativity." I DID say that we don't have exactly the same level of certainty about climate change that we do about gravity. The conclusions drawn from both theoretical frameworks are, however, both far beyond any reasonable doubt. I don’t know, it seems more like you’re not reading clearly.

A) I’m addressing climate change, not “global warming”. Global warming is an outdated terminology that inaccurately reflects the scope and nature of anthropogenic effects on the world’s ecosystems.

B) Note my phrasing: “The conclusion reached about climate change is made with only marginally less provisional certainty than our conclusions about evolution or general relativity.” I DID say that we don’t have exactly the same level of certainty about climate change that we do about gravity. The conclusions drawn from both theoretical frameworks are, however, both far beyond any reasonable doubt.

]]> By: Francesc http://unreasonablefaith.com/2009/10/15/what-happened-to-global-warming/#comment-66793 Francesc Fri, 16 Oct 2009 08:04:35 +0000 http://unreasonablefaith.com/?p=7634#comment-66793 Our prophet Bobby Henderson and other people touched by His noodly appendages stated some time ago that modern killer pirates are not the real pirates loved by the FSM. When we say "pirates" we are referring to the romantic idea of people who fought for their freedom and rescued princesses from evil dictators ( I should point here to the fact that, probably, the number of princes rescued in history may be very similar to the number of princesses) RAmen! Our prophet Bobby Henderson and other people touched by His noodly appendages stated some time ago that modern killer pirates are not the real pirates loved by the FSM. When we say “pirates” we are referring to the romantic idea of people who fought for their freedom and rescued princesses from evil dictators ( I should point here to the fact that, probably, the number of princes rescued in history may be very similar to the number of princesses)

RAmen!

]]> By: Jabster http://unreasonablefaith.com/2009/10/15/what-happened-to-global-warming/#comment-66780 Jabster Fri, 16 Oct 2009 05:28:39 +0000 http://unreasonablefaith.com/?p=7634#comment-66780 I've read the evidence I just didn't have it to hand ... I’ve read the evidence I just didn’t have it to hand …

]]> By: arrakis http://unreasonablefaith.com/2009/10/15/what-happened-to-global-warming/#comment-66771 arrakis Fri, 16 Oct 2009 02:48:13 +0000 http://unreasonablefaith.com/?p=7634#comment-66771 I loved the reference...I was wondering how quickly the comparison would be made. And JonJon, climate change models in which the ocean current in the Atlantic shifts show that Europe would enter a small ice age. I loved the reference…I was wondering how quickly the comparison would be made.

And JonJon, climate change models in which the ocean current in the Atlantic shifts show that Europe would enter a small ice age.

]]> By: JonJon http://unreasonablefaith.com/2009/10/15/what-happened-to-global-warming/#comment-66765 JonJon Fri, 16 Oct 2009 00:37:11 +0000 http://unreasonablefaith.com/?p=7634#comment-66765 Gravity and global warming on a catastrophic scale are not the same thing, and they have not been equally well established. If you think we have as much proof for global warming as we have for gravity probably being here tomorrow, you are not thinking clearly. Gravity and global warming on a catastrophic scale are not the same thing, and they have not been equally well established.

If you think we have as much proof for global warming as we have for gravity probably being here tomorrow, you are not thinking clearly.

]]> By: Elemenope http://unreasonablefaith.com/2009/10/15/what-happened-to-global-warming/#comment-66764 Elemenope Fri, 16 Oct 2009 00:36:59 +0000 http://unreasonablefaith.com/?p=7634#comment-66764 Actually, each prior ice age was preceded by a sudden spike in temperature. Actually, each prior ice age was preceded by a sudden spike in temperature.

]]> By: Elemenope http://unreasonablefaith.com/2009/10/15/what-happened-to-global-warming/#comment-66763 Elemenope Fri, 16 Oct 2009 00:36:19 +0000 http://unreasonablefaith.com/?p=7634#comment-66763 I know, I know. It was a tongue-in-cheek meta-reference to this being a blog that talks mostly about religious matters. I know, I know. It was a tongue-in-cheek meta-reference to this being a blog that talks mostly about religious matters.

]]> By: JonJon http://unreasonablefaith.com/2009/10/15/what-happened-to-global-warming/#comment-66761 JonJon Fri, 16 Oct 2009 00:34:42 +0000 http://unreasonablefaith.com/?p=7634#comment-66761 Rising global temperatures have positive effects, too: No sudden ice ages! Rising global temperatures have positive effects, too:

No sudden ice ages!

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