These youth group events were bad when I used to go to them… incredibly, it seems like they’ve gotten worse.
Poor kids can’t even hug one another without being judged a sinner now.
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What the fuck?
Throughout the ages, Christianity has produced and inspired some of the greatest artists and sharpest thinkers in the Western world.
Then there’s this.
I think the scales are balanced.
That said, I can’t shake the feeling that this is a parody. But I have to invoke Poe’s law here; it’s impossible to tell without someone with inside knowledge present to clarify. Anybody know?
Apparently it was satirized on Stuff Christians Like.
I don’t know if the group doing this rap, the Encounter Generation Conference, know about Stuff Christians Like, though.
Since “Stuff Christian’s Like” is a site that mocks Evangelical culture from the inside, I’m guessing the “side hugs” rule is real. Perhaps the form is parody, while the substance in serious.
I’m definitely calling Poe’s Law on this. Parody, but straight-faced enough to give everyone a moment of doubt.
I think it’s real, telling kids the no hugging rule at youth camp in an amusing way.
just because it is said does not mean that everyone freaks out over it. i had somone tell me not to hug a girl like i was cause i would “long for sex” the guy was an atheist. so i mean its just an old guy rule i guess and these guys are old and lame. its the band not Christians.
My guess is that this is 100% real.
I could be wrong, I’m with Daniel on this one.
You can’t hug women in a traditional hug, cuz you might feel their boobies. SINNER!!!!
Actually, I think the problem is that THEY might feel your, um…. irrational exuberance. Your gofer wood, as it were. And some girls don’t like that. Even worse, at church camp, some girls DO like that.
“…Jesus never hugged nobody like that…”
How do they know? Have the seen the video?
Where was this filmed? It must be a Poe – surely…
Well, probably not; isn’t it tradition in Middle Eastern countries for males to greet with a kiss in the cheek?
We’re talking about somebody who lived in Canaan 2,000 years ago. I don’t think modern traditions apply.
By the way, we can’t be sure if Jesus hugged people, but we can be sure he didn’t rap like that.
So police sirens and bullet cases falling to the ground are cool, but hugging someone is a sin.
Go on, press it, presssss it. You know you wanna.
Yeah. Violent threats are fine, but no hugs. Man…. what a waste of talent and passion…..
I can’t even bring myself to press play. I really can’t.
DO IT
Wuss.
Be strong resist the button press, your blood pressure will thank you.
Besides I only have so much time in my life that I can waste of Retarded Shit.
DON’T DO IT! (Daniel has lost a few million neurons after watching the video and now he wants us all to walk the same deleterious path!)
Still haven’t done it. Can’t help thinking that Daniel is trying to lead me toward the dark side.
Come on man, what’s a few IQ points? Everyone is doing it.
See Custador? Now he is using the classic nazi alibi! (Everybody did it!)
I pressed play. I was sorry. I must be getting really old. Couldn’t understand a word of it. They were “rapping” actual words, right? I think I caught “sin” a couple times, but that’s about it.
PS: I’m pretty sure that made Baby Jesus cry.
Win
I originally saw this 2 weeks ago, and have been wondering ever since if it were a Poe or not. That said, if it isn’t Poe, how quickly they forget the Sunday school lesson of St. Paul.
“Be ye in the world, but not of the world.”
Funny how xtians are constantly trying to emulate the very things they speak out against.
I would hope this is a parody.
I don’t think I could deal with anymore poorly thought out attempts by fundamentalist at social engineering.
I live in fear of the day where things like this cause me to have a psychotic break and I start breaking into churches to shit in the pews.
please videotape it if you do.
Just ouch,it hurts, make the rappers stop please.
What’s with the police sirens? Does that make it relevant to “today’s youth”? Gosh, I wish I could drop these bandanna wearin’ homeboys off in the Central District (come see the rich cultural heritage in this diverse neighborhood of Seattle! Good schools only a bus ride away!) & then get a percentage for every can of whoopass that’ll be opened on them. Come on….tell me it’s fake.
awwwww…..YEAH!
I think Daniel is right. This is real, for them, and they are trying to tell the kids about the “rulz of da camp” in a “cool” and “hip” way.
I also like how the none of the girls get mics. That fits nicely into their scheme of things….”You can dance for us, but no way are you allowed to speak.”
This is bad, but it makes me miss seeing/hearing really sincere (and thus, really bad), Christian metal/hard rock. The stuff with leather pants & spandex, big hair, etc….but with Jesus.
I also like how the none of the girls get mics. That fits nicely into their scheme of things….”You can dance for us, but no way are you allowed to speak.”
Yeah, I was wondering if they were going to be permitted to drop some rhymes on us. Somehow I wasn’t surprised that they weren’t.
Just for you, slantrhyme: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gln-p8r2V4
If you’ve ever been to an Evangelical Camp, you won’t hesitate to think this is genuine.
Front and Side hugging is actually debated extensively …
Did you find this stunts maturity? It sounds so juvenile. It’s not that far away from Islamic countries where men freak at seeing a woman’s hair. Can there not be self-control without all the legalism?
Well, that’s a huge question … and I’m not sure I’ve ever given any serious though to it.
I’d say that just because rules were in place did NOT mean that they were followed (and even as the pastor’s kid, I was guilty at times).
But as to whether it stunts maturity … I guess my tentative answer would be no. I think that I’m a pretty mature individual, and I’d venture to say that my commitment to abstinence has actually contributed to the maturity of my marriage.
Some people are well-adjusted despite their life conditions, rather than because of them. It’s something my S.O. and I discuss quite a bit, since while I had very supportive parents who nurtured intellectual curiosity, hers didn’t. And yet, she is quite bright and loves to learn and teach.
Yes but I don’t equate committment to abstinence with a whole list of do’s and do not’s. I think the maturity part comes in from an individual setting those boundaries for himself and not relying on an external list of rules.
I don’t get it. Usually the Hips and Ass get in the way.
It’s easier to reach the naughty parts when you side hug.
All this is so confusing, I’m just going to start rear-hugging.
You mean, hugging someone else’s rear? Or a normal hug but approaching from the rear?
I was being facetious but, sure, a normal hug but from behind. Then your genitals won’t touch and your chest won’t feel any boobs, so surely that should be kosher? :)
The facetiousness was intended to cut both ways :)
Haha, I can just see the kids, “You said no FRONT hugs. You didn’t say anything about REAR hugs.”
Never mind the loophole where if you’re embracing while lying down, it isn’t really hugging, because hugging is a standing thing.
We all know that spooning will lead to forking…
And forking will lead to porking…
No front hug and no kisses? What about Romans 16:16?
The Bible is only to be taken literally when it doesn’t conflict with what we think is appropriate.
So Jesus and Judas didn’t literally kiss? That was just a metaphor?
Judas blew Jesus a kiss, but then Jesus was like “that’s so totally gay” and was grossed out, so then, um…hey, Romans!
Sometimes I get the impression that some Christians think that the conventions of the societies described in the Bible were identical to those they are familiar with from 21st century American life.
Until alcohol. Then they try to explain how it was different back then. My favorite is when fundies say Jews drank wine mixed with water and it wasn’t possible to get drunk off it. Or that Jesus didn’t make wine like we know it today, it was “new wine” — and what is new wine? That’s right, grapejuice!
Silly fundies.
Bwahaha. I never heard that.
But the Bible specifically warns against drunkeness so they were drinking something
loaded back then.
Wow. That’s a new one on me, but then my exposure to the fundie culture is fairly limited. Once I got mistaken for Jewish because I sweetened a particularly bitter red wine with some sugar (which is not far off, since it was a habit I picked up from a Jewish friend of mine.) Apparently, that actually is a thing.
My favorite is when fundies say Jews drank wine mixed with water and it wasn’t possible to get drunk off it.
Yeah, that’s one I’ve heard multiple times. So sure, at wedding feasts that lasted for an entire week, people drank watered down wine for seven entire days … because it tasted so good?
Want to bet that these are the same people who got a certain brand of lemonade banned in schools because it contained trace quantities (i.e. less than in a slice of bread) of alcohol?
Wait, what?
Was a story on the BBC website. A school in the US somewhere had naturaly brewed lemonade which contained tiny traces of alcohol, and put it in the ingredients list (per FDA guidelines) – at which point one of the parents spotted it and is now campaigning for the lemonade to be reclassified as mock liquor (and banned from sale to under aged people, obviously). We’re talking less alcohol than a slice of bread, seriously. To get drunk on it is not physically possible.
Kind of like you have to be 21 to buy non-alcoholic beer,even though half the point is you can’t get drunk on it,it’s even found only in beer coolers…though I suppose it technically exists for those individuals whom for health reasons can’t drink beer with alcohol in it,or to help recovering addicts..but of course they put it with and next to the normal beer(granted even though the NA versions have about .9%,which they would say justifies it’s placement at the same time it removes it’s point of existing).
Of course its a metaphor! How do you not see that!? But when God created the earth in under a week? that was just as clearly literal.
And the line where Jesus told people who wanted to follow him to sell everything and give it to charity? that was a joke. I mean Jesus loved capitalism.
Funny how they rant about no front hugs while grabbing their crotches in the time-honored rap crap manner. Stay classy, Christian Youth Groups.
OMF there are no words.
The first rapper almost reminds of Smoov-E at a couple points.
Except Smoov-E sings exclusively about hash and sex. Really graphically about sex. And hash.
It’s a lot better than this nonsense. http://lala.com/zy9o
I have no doubt in my mind that this is genuine. I experienced many a thing like this at church camp. Oh, church camp. what fantastic memories. It was at church camp that I learned that bare shoulders cause my brothers to lust. Oh, and so does wearing a bag with a long strap that goes across my chest from my shoulder to my hip. Oh, yes, modesty rules how I do remember thee. and where I cried because I focused to much on school and not enough on God. There was a song/dance thing about how satan wants to deceive you with the Good (like school) and God wants to give you the best (God).
I couldn’t finish watching. I think it was probably a genuine Xian music “experience”.
Trying to find the right words: pathetic, stupid, unbelievable come to mind
Hmm. “Follow these rules…” – just the kind of attitude that made rock n roll exciting and popular. Far from giving them “that Christian side hug”, I shall be staying as far from you these clearly unbalanced people as is humanly possible.
this should be filed under the comedy section.
seems like something that would have been produced by the lonely island
i think you all are making wayy to big of a deal out of this.
it was just a youth event little parody, they aren’t a serious rap group, they’re simply just sending a message in a very amusing way. I don’t understand why it’s such a big deal, things like this happen all the time this one just happened to be put on youtube.
im sorry but, grow up and get on
the message is as ridiculous as the delivery medium, I think is the general feeling here. I’m still refusing to watch it, personally.
they aren’t a serious rap group
Yes, we know. Many of us went to Church camps where things like this went on. It’s still so incredibly bad that there’s a peculiar pleasure in watching it – sort of a “I do it because it feels so good when I stop,” kind of thing.
And I’m sorry, but “I’m a rough rider filled up with Christ’s love,” may, in fact, be the worst line in a Christian song ever penned by human hands.
they’re simply just sending a message in a very amusing way.
Yes, the message. That’s the other problem. Young evangelicals seem to spend more time thinking about not having sex than I spent thinking about about having sex. There should be an obvious problem.
Seriously, why the constant refrain of steering clear of anything that might possible lead to sexual thoughts? Have we finally moved the fence that far from the Torah? Whatever happened to taking a cold shower and a lap around the field?
Don’t you see how absurd it is? Particularly since, as near as I can tell from conversations with people who grew up in the culture, it doesn’t seem to stop teens from having sex?
It is a bit like somebody saying “Whatever you do, don’t think of pink rhinos!”
The first thing you do is think of a pink rhino. And of course if they keep telling you not to think about pink rhinos…. Well, it’s not too long before that pink rhino is chasing a poacher into a mangrove bush, if you get me.
Good points, both. I’d just like to add that creating a culture where HUGGING comes with attached guilt and fear is outright reprehensible. It may be ‘belief’ that hugging and kissing is inappropriate and potentially dangerous, but ‘belief’ is not an umbrella that can shelter you from the fact that there is NO justification for this belief either in the bible or the real world and all its statistics. In fact, quite the opposite, it was fine and dandy for Jesus to kiss even members of the same sex. He also didn’t have a problem washing people’s feet, which to many is entirely innocent and to others results in a rather sturdy flagpole or some peaked mountains. Anything in the world can be seen as sexually suggestive in the right light, but a hug is not going to drive you into Satan’s arms. To try to stifle this natural act of love and friendship is surely the antithesis of what christianity is supposed to be. To attach the fear of judgement to it is something that is liable to cause nothing but pain and misery to the unfortunates who take it seriously, and a lot of amusement and bewilderment to anyone else. The song is simply goofy, and we get that, but the message is actually damaging.
And I’m sorry, but “I’m a rough rider filled up with Christ’s love,” may, in fact, be the worst line in a Christian song ever penned by human hands.
You have not listened to enough Christian music, vorjack ;)
Do these folks even know what a “rough rider” actually IS? And to pair that with “filled with Christ’s love” just makes it even dirtier.
Dear, misspelling Samantha,
Thank you for your absurd concern.
You know, the rest of you haters just don’t seem to get it. Until I watched this video, the front hug seemed innocuous, but thanks to these genuine, caring individuals I have seen the light! Well, either I saw the light, or the melting neurons produced a bright, flashy illusion which tasted like cinnamon.
Hallelujah baby, and gimme that christian side hug!
There’s nothing as bad as Christians trying to be hip. Just watch some of the teen programming on TBN, GodTV, JCTV and Smile of a Child.
This reminds me of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KubgMDSMXfI
which enjoyed some popularity when I was young.
If we’re going to be breaking out the Stryper in this particular discussion, then it’s this hilarious anti-premarital-sex video from lead singer Michael Sweet’s solo project that we should be watching: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffEAmVziRXM
I love the sheer unadulterated terror that fundamentalists undergo at the thought of teenage genitals being in close proximity to each other even through layers of clothing.
How are there fundamentalists? How are people with this many hang ups about sex still breeding?
In very short sessions, I suspect.
I assume they’re doing it very awkwardly.
I like my religious instructional videos with a side of smug racist mockery, please. Now excuse me, I’m going to the studio to record my new track, “Devilishly Horny Fuck Hug”.
I’ll do backups
As was mentioned a bit ago, perhaps they should look up what a roughrider is….
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=rough+rider
so i showed this to my boyfriend who thought it would be hilarious to share it with some of our other friends at our university. from there its spread like a bad sti and now we can’t get through a single meal without someone in our group breaking into rap or christian side hugging someone else…
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