Biblical subsistence shepherds maybe were just simple; now to believe that stuff, you have to be a simpleton.

I’ve long associated christianity and illiteracy (with the exception of some authors and thinkers); but I think innumeracy, which is just another symptom or expression of some kind of lack of ability to comprehend or simple-mindedness, is even more closely associated with it.

Hmmm… lack of ability to comprehend… concepts like:
anthropology; cultural diversity; sexual diversity, family structure over the world and over history; environmentalism (specifically, overpopulation); the scale you and others have noted from the atomic sub-micro to the universal macro; all of the factors involved in an ethical decision and action; the rigidity and irrelevance of absolute rules that substitute for conscience, empathy, and the ability to reason and be ethical; the irrelevance of 6,000 year old mythologies and 2,000 year old fables…..

But people now, who have astronomy in their faces, who know about superclusters of galaxies, and the earth not being the center of God’s special little heaven designed just for earth people to look at, who still think there is some certifiably neurotic God who gives a damn how people mate, whether they get a government license to mate, whether they read a cobbled-together book of Hebrew and Greek fiction, whether they go inside a building on their day off and chant and sing, whether the females have all the sex they want without being “punished” by a forced pregnancy, and whether they carry through a pregnancy to overpopulate the world still further, are abominably, execrably, egregiously stupid.

I doubt if there where such an entity that words we used to describe are own attributes would in anyway be suitable to describe its attributes.

But yeah, Vorjack had it right the first time and I apply the label: something that created galaxies, clusters of galaxies, and superclusters being interested in our mating habits isn’t stupid. It’s beyond stupid.

This.

A deity like this sounds so incredibly petty. Like the supreme deity of all universe is obsessive-compulsive about everything being just so. Everything has to be spotless, everything has to work like a clockwork and don’t you dare step one milimeter out of the line, or s/he/it will throw a divine tantrum of universal proportions!

some call the attempt to completely understand God hubris (i think so too)

Hubris to attempt to understand an imaginary created thing with all of humankind’s faults.

A cartoon invented in cobbled-together and re-invented bits of writing by Bronze Age shepherds, or maybe by people intending to control the shepherds. (Or people who seemed to love sheep, probably in every imaginable way.)

That’s funny.

Scientists have far better understanding of life than of the sun since it is more complex.

There is also this Mars meteorite that suggests fossil life, from Mars.
There might not be a advanced civilization on Mars, but the fact tat life is discovered tjere means that other planets will probably also have it.

Astronomy is at the verge of detecting Earth sized planets in the next 3 years. There is a 3 year project ongoing right now.

Also scientists can actually now program a computer that creates this programmed DNA sequence and from this create life from scratch that never existed or evolved before. Still basic stuff. Just check out the BBC documentary “The Cell”

One thing I do know, out there in the universe, there are planets that are far better placed than Earth, have real paradises and probably has evolved life forms that are way superior and complex than life on Earth.

JC said the kingdom of God was within us, was not an external (viewable with our natural eyes) kind of kingdom. Mankind is the intended image and dwelling place of God. When they asked JC to “show them the Father” His response was this “when you’ve seen me you’ve seen the Father” and that “He and the Father are One”. He is the Template, the Pattern Son and looked a lot like original, pre-death (sin, separation) mankind who was (originally) created in His very image & likeness, is His “temple” or intended dwelling place.

While the heavens (the galaxies, sun, moon, stars, etc) “declare His handiwork” as (OT) scripture declares, the truth of the (NT) is revealed in God-indwelt mankind, ie Christ. Paul said it this way “I have been crucified with Christ, its no longer I that lives, but now Christ is living his life thru me”.

So looking “out there” will eventually lead us to the truth inwardly, that has been my experience these many years. All the best.