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	<title>Comments on: Strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them!</title>
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		<title>By: Custador</title>
		<link>http://unreasonablefaith.com/2010/01/13/strike-off-their-heads-and-strike-off-every-fingertip-of-them/#comment-79231</link>
		<dc:creator>Custador</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 14:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think what France has done is good, because it doesn&#039;t prevent people from being Muslims, but it does quite clearly state that women in France must be treated as equals, and that indoctrinating them from birth that they must wear the burqa in unacceptable and will not be tollerated.

It is very difficult, because a lot of Muslim women actually &lt;i&gt;want&lt;/i&gt; to wear the burqa - but I would argue that it is only because they are societally conditioned to want to do so. In the short term, that means that a lot of women in France are going to be denied the right to dress how they&#039;d like, but in the long-term I think it&#039;s going to mean that Muslims will assimilate into French society much more succesfully and that the cultural opression of women which is so often associated with Islam is going to be less prevalent in France than elsewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think what France has done is good, because it doesn&#8217;t prevent people from being Muslims, but it does quite clearly state that women in France must be treated as equals, and that indoctrinating them from birth that they must wear the burqa in unacceptable and will not be tollerated.</p>
<p>It is very difficult, because a lot of Muslim women actually <i>want</i> to wear the burqa &#8211; but I would argue that it is only because they are societally conditioned to want to do so. In the short term, that means that a lot of women in France are going to be denied the right to dress how they&#8217;d like, but in the long-term I think it&#8217;s going to mean that Muslims will assimilate into French society much more succesfully and that the cultural opression of women which is so often associated with Islam is going to be less prevalent in France than elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Smart-Alec</title>
		<link>http://unreasonablefaith.com/2010/01/13/strike-off-their-heads-and-strike-off-every-fingertip-of-them/#comment-79229</link>
		<dc:creator>Smart-Alec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 14:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What do you guys think of this http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/01/15/AR2010011500653.html

      France is really taking some concrete steps in making a stand against some vital parts of the Islamic culture &amp; in a way it seems warranted from the French viewpoint as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do you guys think of this <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/01/15/AR2010011500653.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/01/15/AR2010011500653.html</a></p>
<p>      France is really taking some concrete steps in making a stand against some vital parts of the Islamic culture &amp; in a way it seems warranted from the French viewpoint as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Jabster</title>
		<link>http://unreasonablefaith.com/2010/01/13/strike-off-their-heads-and-strike-off-every-fingertip-of-them/#comment-79103</link>
		<dc:creator>Jabster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 19:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also think it&#039;s mixing with others of different views and realising that they are not all the infidels that they may have been told they are ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also think it&#8217;s mixing with others of different views and realising that they are not all the infidels that they may have been told they are &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mohammed is no Ripley : nullifidian</title>
		<link>http://unreasonablefaith.com/2010/01/13/strike-off-their-heads-and-strike-off-every-fingertip-of-them/#comment-79091</link>
		<dc:creator>Mohammed is no Ripley : nullifidian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 18:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to Mark D in a comment over at Unreasonable [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to Mark D in a comment over at Unreasonable [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 16:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Religion is for the weak minded.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Religion is for the weak minded.</p>
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		<title>By: Yoav</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yoav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 14:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You suppose to kill everyone but you should be nice to them while you do it and explaine that it for their own good and because god love them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You suppose to kill everyone but you should be nice to them while you do it and explaine that it for their own good and because god love them.</p>
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		<title>By: Custador</title>
		<link>http://unreasonablefaith.com/2010/01/13/strike-off-their-heads-and-strike-off-every-fingertip-of-them/#comment-79038</link>
		<dc:creator>Custador</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 13:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s also education. My neighbours on both sides are Muslim PhD students, and they&#039;re both very nice people in every sense - but I get the impression that Islam is just something they have to do because it&#039;s expected of them, rather than that they actually have any personal feelings invested in it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s also education. My neighbours on both sides are Muslim PhD students, and they&#8217;re both very nice people in every sense &#8211; but I get the impression that Islam is just something they have to do because it&#8217;s expected of them, rather than that they actually have any personal feelings invested in it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jabster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jabster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 12:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Probably Islam was so successful in keeping people backwards ...&quot;

That&#039;s the big question and my answer is yes it does but I&#039;m willing to listen to other arguments as I have to except that the communciation sources in the UK are biased. Take the latest Pat Robertson outburst, if they had been a British based Muslim our press would have had a field day.

&quot;Then again, all the Muslim I met were really good people, ...&quot;

I wish I could say the same. Some of the ones that I&#039;ve met were far from it but this seems to be more releated to the cultural background than being a Muslim in itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Probably Islam was so successful in keeping people backwards &#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the big question and my answer is yes it does but I&#8217;m willing to listen to other arguments as I have to except that the communciation sources in the UK are biased. Take the latest Pat Robertson outburst, if they had been a British based Muslim our press would have had a field day.</p>
<p>&#8220;Then again, all the Muslim I met were really good people, &#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>I wish I could say the same. Some of the ones that I&#8217;ve met were far from it but this seems to be more releated to the cultural background than being a Muslim in itself.</p>
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		<title>By: Francesco Orsenigo</title>
		<link>http://unreasonablefaith.com/2010/01/13/strike-off-their-heads-and-strike-off-every-fingertip-of-them/#comment-79030</link>
		<dc:creator>Francesco Orsenigo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 12:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Jabster, any religious book can be cherry picked to mean everything and its opposite.

Probably Islam was so successful in keeping people backwards because is very pervasive (ie, &quot;pray five times per day&quot; etc...)
The huge commitment required means that nobody that has spent his life in rituals will readily accept that s/he wasted her entire life.
Disbelief is made too much of a frightening option.

Then again, all the Muslim I met were really good people, not especially bothered by religion (both drunk alcohol, but one didn&#039;t eat pork meat).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Jabster, any religious book can be cherry picked to mean everything and its opposite.</p>
<p>Probably Islam was so successful in keeping people backwards because is very pervasive (ie, &#8220;pray five times per day&#8221; etc&#8230;)<br />
The huge commitment required means that nobody that has spent his life in rituals will readily accept that s/he wasted her entire life.<br />
Disbelief is made too much of a frightening option.</p>
<p>Then again, all the Muslim I met were really good people, not especially bothered by religion (both drunk alcohol, but one didn&#8217;t eat pork meat).</p>
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		<title>By: Francesco Orsenigo</title>
		<link>http://unreasonablefaith.com/2010/01/13/strike-off-their-heads-and-strike-off-every-fingertip-of-them/#comment-79028</link>
		<dc:creator>Francesco Orsenigo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 12:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are the minority unfortunately. =(
We&#039;d fare better if we moved to Scandinavia...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are the minority unfortunately. =(<br />
We&#8217;d fare better if we moved to Scandinavia&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jabster</title>
		<link>http://unreasonablefaith.com/2010/01/13/strike-off-their-heads-and-strike-off-every-fingertip-of-them/#comment-79011</link>
		<dc:creator>Jabster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 06:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not often that I agree with Berlusconi but when he described Islam as backwards he was right. We are lucky in the West that we&#039;ve managed to create institutions that reined in the powerful religious organisations, managing to suppress the worse excesses of the various Churches.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not often that I agree with Berlusconi but when he described Islam as backwards he was right. We are lucky in the West that we&#8217;ve managed to create institutions that reined in the powerful religious organisations, managing to suppress the worse excesses of the various Churches.</p>
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		<title>By: Jabster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jabster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 06:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No I don&#039;t have it backwards; devout does not equal fundementalist ... when it comes to the actual leg work of not drinking, praying, taking out loans i.e the bits the actual require some self sacrifice that&#039;s what I call devout. When you just cherry pick the bits you like they don&#039;t effect your life but do others that is not.

Would you say that the Pope isn&#039;t a devout Christian?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No I don&#8217;t have it backwards; devout does not equal fundementalist &#8230; when it comes to the actual leg work of not drinking, praying, taking out loans i.e the bits the actual require some self sacrifice that&#8217;s what I call devout. When you just cherry pick the bits you like they don&#8217;t effect your life but do others that is not.</p>
<p>Would you say that the Pope isn&#8217;t a devout Christian?</p>
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		<title>By: nazani14</title>
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		<dc:creator>nazani14</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 01:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s not enough angst here- read up on the history of the Arabic slave trade.  I first became aware of it when I saw a Chinese scroll depicting Middle Easterners bringing black slaves as tribute to the Emperor of China.  
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_slave_trade</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s not enough angst here- read up on the history of the Arabic slave trade.  I first became aware of it when I saw a Chinese scroll depicting Middle Easterners bringing black slaves as tribute to the Emperor of China.<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_slave_trade" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_slave_trade</a></p>
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		<title>By: Francesc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Francesc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 00:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Three? What about Joseph Smith?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Three? What about Joseph Smith?</p>
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		<title>By: Custador</title>
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		<dc:creator>Custador</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 23:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, in that same vane, Westboro Baptist Church are probably among an extreme minority which genuinly does behave exactly how the Bible implies that a Christian should. Religion, hey? That&#039;s what you get for being a couple of thousand years behind the times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, in that same vane, Westboro Baptist Church are probably among an extreme minority which genuinly does behave exactly how the Bible implies that a Christian should. Religion, hey? That&#8217;s what you get for being a couple of thousand years behind the times.</p>
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