Comments on: Dead and Gone … and Lied About http://unreasonablefaith.com/2010/01/16/dead-and-gone-and-lied-about/ Reasonable Thoughts on Religion, Science, Skepticism, and Atheism Mon, 06 Sep 2010 13:43:04 -0400 hourly 1 By: Pyvsi http://unreasonablefaith.com/2010/01/16/dead-and-gone-and-lied-about/#comment-81804 Pyvsi Sun, 31 Jan 2010 17:43:55 +0000 http://unreasonablefaith.com/?p=9033#comment-81804 Reminds me of the Cosby episode when Rudy's fish died. Cliff made a big deal of it, tried to explain that the goldfish was in a better place, made a funeral and everything. Rudy just wanted to watch TV and use the bathroom. She probably would have been just fine if the family simply told her, "He's dead. Stop feeding him. Okay?" Reminds me of the Cosby episode when Rudy’s fish died. Cliff made a big deal of it, tried to explain that the goldfish was in a better place, made a funeral and everything. Rudy just wanted to watch TV and use the bathroom. She probably would have been just fine if the family simply told her,
“He’s dead. Stop feeding him. Okay?”

]]> By: Reality, Death, and Family Cats | Rationality Now http://unreasonablefaith.com/2010/01/16/dead-and-gone-and-lied-about/#comment-80299 Reality, Death, and Family Cats | Rationality Now Wed, 20 Jan 2010 19:13:36 +0000 http://unreasonablefaith.com/?p=9033#comment-80299 [...] a great post on Unreasonable Faith by guest blogger Vincent Skolny (of Avangelism.com) about kids, their [...] [...] a great post on Unreasonable Faith by guest blogger Vincent Skolny (of Avangelism.com) about kids, their [...]

]]> By: Revyloution http://unreasonablefaith.com/2010/01/16/dead-and-gone-and-lied-about/#comment-80029 Revyloution Tue, 19 Jan 2010 04:55:54 +0000 http://unreasonablefaith.com/?p=9033#comment-80029 HEY! I know Eddie Hitler, and the largest part of England Ive ever seen was the transfer terminal at Heathrow! HEY! I know Eddie Hitler, and the largest part of England Ive ever seen was the transfer terminal at Heathrow!

]]> By: DCtouristsANDlocals http://unreasonablefaith.com/2010/01/16/dead-and-gone-and-lied-about/#comment-79968 DCtouristsANDlocals Mon, 18 Jan 2010 18:31:34 +0000 http://unreasonablefaith.com/?p=9033#comment-79968 What do you mean that her sister was refusing to be saved? What do you mean that her sister was refusing to be saved?

]]> By: Nota Fundie http://unreasonablefaith.com/2010/01/16/dead-and-gone-and-lied-about/#comment-79843 Nota Fundie Sun, 17 Jan 2010 23:11:10 +0000 http://unreasonablefaith.com/?p=9033#comment-79843 Gentlemen and Women, I am glad to have met the approval of my fellow amoral Godless folk. It's a pleasure to be here on a Sunday and not in church where those foolish Christians learn right from wrong and good from bad instead of running over old people while driving and typing this comment into my blackberry. Wait... wait... Yes! Just got another one. Damn it's good to be an atheist (and not a fundie troll)! Gentlemen and Women, I am glad to have met the approval of my fellow amoral Godless folk. It’s a pleasure to be here on a Sunday and not in church where those foolish Christians learn right from wrong and good from bad instead of running over old people while driving and typing this comment into my blackberry. Wait… wait… Yes! Just got another one. Damn it’s good to be an atheist (and not a fundie troll)!

]]> By: Custador http://unreasonablefaith.com/2010/01/16/dead-and-gone-and-lied-about/#comment-79834 Custador Sun, 17 Jan 2010 21:52:55 +0000 http://unreasonablefaith.com/?p=9033#comment-79834 D'n. Deffinitely D'n. D’n. Deffinitely D’n.

]]> By: Custador http://unreasonablefaith.com/2010/01/16/dead-and-gone-and-lied-about/#comment-79833 Custador Sun, 17 Jan 2010 21:51:43 +0000 http://unreasonablefaith.com/?p=9033#comment-79833 So, definitely somebody English because of the Eddie Hitler reference - Not Sunny Day then.... So, definitely somebody English because of the Eddie Hitler reference – Not Sunny Day then….

]]> By: Not a Pastor; Honest http://unreasonablefaith.com/2010/01/16/dead-and-gone-and-lied-about/#comment-79829 Not a Pastor; Honest Sun, 17 Jan 2010 21:30:36 +0000 http://unreasonablefaith.com/?p=9033#comment-79829 Kill the babies, KILL them all with blunt pitchforks as Stalin, Hitler (Adolf not Eddie), The Pope and Pol Pot have already done ... why SHOULD I have morals when I pretend (sorry I mean have faith) that GOD doesn't exist .... bwaaaahhhhh !!!!!!!11111!!!!!1!!!! Kill the babies, KILL them all with blunt pitchforks as Stalin, Hitler (Adolf not Eddie), The Pope and Pol Pot have already done … why SHOULD I have morals when I pretend (sorry I mean have faith) that GOD doesn’t exist …. bwaaaahhhhh !!!!!!!11111!!!!!1!!!!

]]> By: Jabster http://unreasonablefaith.com/2010/01/16/dead-and-gone-and-lied-about/#comment-79827 Jabster Sun, 17 Jan 2010 21:25:27 +0000 http://unreasonablefaith.com/?p=9033#comment-79827 Sorry can't claim for this one ... although maybe I'm a plant working for the other side to make you lot look bad. Basically like Ray Comfort but the other way around. Sorry can’t claim for this one … although maybe I’m a plant working for the other side to make you lot look bad. Basically like Ray Comfort but the other way around.

]]> By: Custador http://unreasonablefaith.com/2010/01/16/dead-and-gone-and-lied-about/#comment-79824 Custador Sun, 17 Jan 2010 21:12:54 +0000 http://unreasonablefaith.com/?p=9033#comment-79824 That's got to be wither Jabster or Sunny. Either way, I deeply aprove :-) That’s got to be wither Jabster or Sunny. Either way, I deeply aprove :-)

]]> By: Nota Fundie http://unreasonablefaith.com/2010/01/16/dead-and-gone-and-lied-about/#comment-79822 Nota Fundie Sun, 17 Jan 2010 21:10:43 +0000 http://unreasonablefaith.com/?p=9033#comment-79822 Hello! As an atheist my children encounter death all the time primarily because I eat babies in front of them, often in casserole form with black olives and red wine. I do this because I don't believe in God and therefore have no sense of right and wrong. Oh, by the way, I'm not a fundie troll. I mention that in passing just 'cause. Anyway, back to the baby thing. Man, do I love eating babies! They're delicious! Have I mentioned I'm not a fundie troll? Because that's important if this is going to work. No, wait, I mean, if this is going to be effective. I mean, you know, if you think I'm a fundie then you won't think that atheists really eat babies but I want you to believe that because... no, wait. Anyway, point is, I'm not a fundie. Okay, so... Life without morals. Awesome, right? It's so great to be a Godless, amoral atheist (which of course I would have to be because I am so clearly NOT a fundie troll)! Cheers! Hello! As an atheist my children encounter death all the time primarily because I eat babies in front of them, often in casserole form with black olives and red wine. I do this because I don’t believe in God and therefore have no sense of right and wrong. Oh, by the way, I’m not a fundie troll. I mention that in passing just ’cause. Anyway, back to the baby thing. Man, do I love eating babies! They’re delicious! Have I mentioned I’m not a fundie troll? Because that’s important if this is going to work. No, wait, I mean, if this is going to be effective. I mean, you know, if you think I’m a fundie then you won’t think that atheists really eat babies but I want you to believe that because… no, wait. Anyway, point is, I’m not a fundie. Okay, so…

Life without morals. Awesome, right? It’s so great to be a Godless, amoral atheist (which of course I would have to be because I am so clearly NOT a fundie troll)!

Cheers!

]]> By: revatheist http://unreasonablefaith.com/2010/01/16/dead-and-gone-and-lied-about/#comment-79697 revatheist Sun, 17 Jan 2010 11:13:32 +0000 http://unreasonablefaith.com/?p=9033#comment-79697 Personally, I think that bravery in the face of death is irrelevant. No one wants to die (yes, I know that those with chronic physical or psychological pain may desire death, but I think more exactly those people desire an end of pain not death per se). Whether one wails aginst death or accepts it stoically, the end is the same. However for surviving family, the experience of a loved one's death can be very different depending on their religious convictions. In my personal experience, atheists have far more depth of grief because a lost loved one is lost forever, their one and only life having been snuffed out; Christians (and other believers for that matter) tend to put less value on life (after all, it was all just a test for the afterlife anyway) and instead simply look forward to seeing their loved ones again (personally, I think that a big reason why the religious grieve at all is the ancient evolutionary heritage that understands death as the ultimate destruction) Personally, I think that bravery in the face of death is irrelevant. No one wants to die (yes, I know that those with chronic physical or psychological pain may desire death, but I think more exactly those people desire an end of pain not death per se). Whether one wails aginst death or accepts it stoically, the end is the same. However for surviving family, the experience of a loved one’s death can be very different depending on their religious convictions. In my personal experience, atheists have far more depth of grief because a lost loved one is lost forever, their one and only life having been snuffed out; Christians (and other believers for that matter) tend to put less value on life (after all, it was all just a test for the afterlife anyway) and instead simply look forward to seeing their loved ones again (personally, I think that a big reason why the religious grieve at all is the ancient evolutionary heritage that understands death as the ultimate destruction)

]]> By: revatheist http://unreasonablefaith.com/2010/01/16/dead-and-gone-and-lied-about/#comment-79696 revatheist Sun, 17 Jan 2010 10:55:21 +0000 http://unreasonablefaith.com/?p=9033#comment-79696 I think you're right. I think you’re right.

]]> By: Tabbie http://unreasonablefaith.com/2010/01/16/dead-and-gone-and-lied-about/#comment-79666 Tabbie Sun, 17 Jan 2010 06:36:58 +0000 http://unreasonablefaith.com/?p=9033#comment-79666 Tammy Faye fought and struggled and panicked and had one heck of a time letting go. I think back to all the times over the years, when with giant tears and big glops of mascara running down her face, she sang so fervently of how she could hardly wait to see Jesus someday. Tammy Faye fought and struggled and panicked and had one heck of a time letting go. I think back to all the times over the years, when with giant tears and big glops of mascara running down her face, she sang so fervently of how she could hardly wait to see Jesus someday.

]]> By: LRA http://unreasonablefaith.com/2010/01/16/dead-and-gone-and-lied-about/#comment-79637 LRA Sun, 17 Jan 2010 04:23:55 +0000 http://unreasonablefaith.com/?p=9033#comment-79637 Eliott-- I still fear the fact that there is no plan for me. I'm still trying to find some kind of significance for my existence, even if it is temporary. I don't feel brave-- I feel very, very scared sometimes. :(, but also :) Eliott– I still fear the fact that there is no plan for me. I’m still trying to find some kind of significance for my existence, even if it is temporary. I don’t feel brave– I feel very, very scared sometimes.

:(, but also :)

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