Comments on: Ken Miller on the Lies of Casey Luskin

By: Custador

Custador — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 08:49:48 +0000

Sam, you’re not arguing semantics at all – you’re arguing against established facts. With that in mind, you’re going to lose.

By: Custador

Custador — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 08:48:50 +0000

It’s not! You could be watching white noise and be a theist; it’s only a religion when you tune to a channel.

By: LRA

LRA — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 04:59:21 +0000

Sorry, Sam, but Judge John E. Jones III (R) would disagree strongly with you.

Here, educate yourself:

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/dover/kitzmiller_v_dover_decision.html

By: Sam

Sam — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 04:45:44 +0000

I have pretty clearly explained how they are very different. And you are the one arguing semantics – I have actually DEFINED the terms, based on how Stephen Meyer, Bill Dembski, et al would define them. They are clearly different.

By: Sam

Sam — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 04:42:04 +0000

Under that logic, the “on” button (i.e. theism) is not a TV channel either. :)

By: Sam

Sam — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 04:40:35 +0000

In fact, you should probably read up more on what you believe. ;)

By: Sam

Sam — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 04:39:24 +0000

So very clever.

By: Sam

Sam — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 04:38:14 +0000

I actually DO NOT accept your premise. I very clearly explained the difference between the two. “Creationism” is the IMPLICATION of ID theory – they are not co-dependent, they are not synonymous, and they should not be in the reverse order.

By: Sam

Sam — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 04:35:23 +0000

Do you really not believe that materialism and Darwinism are practically synonymous?

By: Sunny Day

Sunny Day — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 20:09:08 +0000

I love it when someone brings up “Materialism”. It’s a sign that they are about to embark on a journey of Making Stuff Up.

“Let’s at least be intellectually honest in our claims.”
Translation: Improve your capacity for self deception.

By: Ty

Ty — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 19:29:40 +0000

Yes. This.

By: Ty

Ty — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 19:27:54 +0000

But I want it now!

By: Mike

Mike — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 07:01:50 +0000

I don’t think the Brits are any less inherently liable to religious idiocy than the Americans or anyone else, but the culture here mitigates against it. Far fewer believers, those there are tend to be more moderate, politicians here do not trumpet their faith (they’d not get past selection, never mind election) and an established church whose bishops express doubt about the literal resurrection. Custador is right, the likes of Beck and Limbaugh would find themselves in jail here – not that they’d be given airtime in the first place.

By: Jabster

Jabster — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 06:46:06 +0000

“I mean, come on–y’all have a “creation museum” too!”

Here’s a link for those interested … not quite the same really!

http://www.genesisexpo.co.uk

By: openlyatheist

openlyatheist — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 03:42:26 +0000

mikespeir said: “I predict that in 50 years the average Fundamentalist Christian will subscribe to some form or descent with modification.”

I predict that in 50 years the average Fundamentalist Christian will claim that Fundamentalists always did so and that evolution is in fact proof of Christianity, along w/ the Big Bang, etc.