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Is Anti-Islam the new Antisemitism?

Thank you all for the warm welcome. I had two ideas for posts to start off, one a bit less controversial than the other; I decided to go with the easier one first.

There have been many words aired over the proposed Cordoba Center in Manhattan, presumably because of its proximity to the World Trade Center site. With the attention paid to this particular mosque, a person might be easily led into thinking that the controversy is simply over a site with historical and emotional value, and that by-and-large the sentiment of religious freedom prevails in the rest of the United States.

Unfortunately, that impression would be wrong. From the New York Times:

At one time, neighbors who did not want mosques in their backyards said their concerns were over traffic, parking and noise — the same reasons they might object to a church or a synagogue. But now the gloves are off.

In all of the recent conflicts, opponents have said their problem is Islam itself. They quote passages from the Koran and argue that even the most Americanized Muslim secretly wants to replace the Constitution with Islamic Shariah law.

These local skirmishes make clear that there is now widespread debate about whether the best way to uphold America’s democratic values is to allow Muslims the same religious freedom enjoyed by other Americans, or to pull away the welcome mat from a faith seen as a singular threat.

“What’s different is the heat, the volume, the level of hostility,” said Ihsan Bagby, associate professor of Islamic studies at the University of Kentucky. “It’s one thing to oppose a mosque because traffic might increase, but it’s different when you say these mosques are going to be nurturing terrorist bombers, that Islam is invading, that civilization is being undermined by Muslims.”

The article details four other recent cases of community protests in reaction to a proposed mosque or Muslim community center. What unites these protests with the Cordoba Center controversy is the focus, which has shifted onto Islam itself being the problem identified by protesters rather than the more mundane civil complaints one would expect when any new large gathering place is proposed. One of Andrew Sullivan’s readers opines that this basic anti-Islamic sentiment has always been there and the Cordoba Center has merely provided a convenient pretext to stop hiding it, with cover being provided by prominent national political leaders.

I find the general thrust of the argument plausible, and if it is, has many worrying historical parallels with American antisemitism and anti-Catholicism. Those borderline conspiracy theories generally asserted that people of these groups had secret intentions to subvert the values and structures of the host society, and ultimately replace them with incompatible values. Such popular assertions led large groups and even entire political parties to form in opposition to these supposed subversive elements and promote arguments and legislation to combat the phantom threat, invariably oppressing them and placing their members at risk of harm.

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A Quick Test

by VorJack

Can you look at this and not snicker?

If so, you’re probably on the wrong blog.

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Pillow of Doom

This is what happens when you send 7-year-old boys to Jesus Camp.

Pillow of Doom

I just found this incredibly hilarious.

(via Friendly Atheist)

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Welcome, Elemenope!

Give a warm welcome to our newest contributor, Elemenope! El has been around here for a long time (his first comment was in Jan 2009 and he’s made 3,700 comments), and I’ve always been impressed by his ability to think clearly and write persuasively. He’s also amazingly levelheaded in heated discussions (which is why I asked him to be a moderator many months ago).

Welcome Elemenope! I think you’re going to make UF even better.

(If not, well, Ty will be paying a little visit…)

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Californigaytion

Jon Stewart on the Prop 8 overruling:

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Turn the Other … uh …

by VorJack

Speaking of thought processes that I don’t understand, can anyone explain this to me?

The worst part, for me, is that I’m a compulsive reader. If you have a bumper sticker with small print, I will tailgate you just to figure out what it says. I have gotten into trouble before for staring an a woman’s chest, but I was really just trying to read her t-shirt. If I saw this peaking out from a pair of low-rise jeans, well …

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A Sad Ad

by VorJack

You might have already heard that Harold Camping, host of the conservative Christian radio show Family Radio, is predicting Christ’s return on May 21, 2011, and the end of the world a few months thereafter. Camping has a history of such predictions, and the fact that he hasn’t been right yet doesn’t seem to diminish his following.

The stories of some of those followers are painful to read. Consider this article from Colorado Springs, which mentions Marie Exley. Exley is unemployed, yet she spent $1,200 on a bench ad that advertises Camping’s prediction. This is bad enough, but people giving money they can’t afford to religious hucksters is nothing new. But this moved the story towards pathos:

Exley has bittersweet feelings about Camping’s prediction.

“There are things I felt I always wanted to do — get married, have a kid, travel more,” she said. “But it’s not about what I want out of life. It’s about what God wants.”

No, Exley, this is not about what God wants. It’s about what Camping is capable of getting you to swallow.

My strategy for these sorts of predictions has always been the same: on May 22, 2011, I intend to be smug and still here. But stories like this one pain me. I just don’t understand the thought process that allows people to buy into this, even while it causes them pain and harm.

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A Proposition No-one Can Defend?

by VorJack

As Daniel already mentioned, California’s Proposition 8 was struck down as unconstitutional. Federal District court Judge Vaughn R. Walker produced a 136 page verdict which is available online.

John Pieret over at Thoughts in a Haystack is reading through it, and he picked up on this section on page 9 of the pdf:

At oral argument on proponents’ motion for summary judgment, the court posed to proponents’ counsel the assumption that “the state’s interest in marriage is procreative” and inquired how permitting same-sex marriage impairs or adversely affects that interest. Counsel replied that the inquiry was “not the legally relevant question,” but when pressed for an answer, counsel replied: “Your honor, my answer is: I don’t know. I don’t know.”

Despite this response, proponents in their trial brief promised to “demonstrate that redefining marriage to encompass same-sex relationships” would effect some twenty-three specific harmful consequences. At trial, however, proponents presented only one witness, David Blankenhorn, to address the government interest in marriage. Blankenhorn’s testimony is addressed at length hereafter; suffice it to say that he provided no credible evidence to support any of the claimed adverse effects proponents promised to demonstrate. During closing arguments, proponents again focused on the contention that “responsible procreation is really at the heart of society’s interest in regulating marriage.” When asked to identify the evidence at trial that supported this contention, proponents’ counsel replied, “you don’t have to have evidence of this point.”

It really seems like the proponents of Prop. 8 were phoning this one in. I’m wondering if we’ll finally see their A game when it goes to the Supreme Court. Blankenhorn particularly doesn’t seem to have put much rigor into his testimony, and the Judge seemed unimpressed.

Blankenhorn gave absolutely no explanation why manifestations of the deinstitutionalization of marriage would be exacerbated (and not, for example, ameliorated) by the presence of marriage for same-sex couples. His opinion lacks reliability, as there is simply too great an analytical gap between the data and the opinion Blankenhorn proffered. [...]

Blankenhorn was unwilling to answer many questions directly on cross-examination and was defensive in his answers. Moreover, much of his testimony contradicted his opinions. [...]

Blankenhorn stated he opposes marriage for same-sex couples because it will weaken the institution of marriage, despite his recognition that at least thirteen positive consequences would flow from state recognition of marriage for same-sex couples, including: (1) by increasing the number of married couples who might be interested in adoption and foster care, same-sex marriage might well lead to fewer children growing up in state institutions and more children growing up in loving adoptive and foster families; and (2) same-sex marriage would signify greater social acceptance of homosexual love and the worth and validity of samesex intimate relationships. [...] (p. 48-49)

And finally:

Blankenhorn’s opinions are not supported by reliable evidence or methodology and Blankenhorn failed to consider evidence contrary to his view in presenting his testimony. The court therefore finds the opinions of Blankenhorn to be unreliable and entitled to essentially no weight. (p. 49)

The proponents are already accusing Judge Walker of bias. It’s a telling argument, because I suspect it means they have no direct response to his verdict. One way or another, they have to step it up a bit before they get to the Supreme Court, or else Louis CK’s prediction will turn out to be accurate:

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